I see, the way i read it a while ago was the site was being kept going by what i assumed where a few people paying out of there own pocket which i assumed meant they where just grabbing there debit cards and paying for hosting, my bad it seems
No, you are right. The site is being kept alive by a chosen few.
We can wire these people money but when a large amount of people do that, the income generated causes the banks to get suspicious and investigate the recipient in case that it might be due to illegal activities. Then the government gets involved due to tax evasion and then next thing you know, you have a roommate called Bubba in a 6x6 cell.
We can wire these people money but when a large amount of people do that, the income generated causes the banks to get suspicious and investigate the recipient in case that it might be due to illegal activities. Then the government gets involved due to tax evasion and then next thing you know, you have a roommate called Bubba in a 6x6 cell.
+ the fact that when they find out that this site has been online 8+ years they can slam you with arbitrary amount of taxes for the whole period (including intrests). Even if you avoid jail,you end up with 100 000+ euros worth of upayed taxes in your hand.
Atleast here in finland the tax office is well known of pulling ridiculous sums from the hat if they find out that you have income which has not been taxed.
well i guess i'm lucky that in the uk our police force couldn't catch a cold, but I have read every post in both threads about the demise of tb and with (pre-paid cards, bit coins, Paypal and another 100 ways of paying)
It seems the only real way for this to work is out is to have a martyr and i completely understand why no one wants that job.
Sorry for asking, but i can't remember one thing: What was the problem in "selling" made up digital stuff? Was it that somebody will blow the whistle again? Ok, maybe PP or similar will get suspicious about the amounts, but that's what ebay or similar seller do......
I think it would be a huge nuisance to the staff to actually mail this stuff.. i dunno...
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It actually crossed my mind too, but if you have to show proof of shipping and 40 people buy these "toothpicks", it's going to be a real pain to mail them all
#1534649 by unknown[81460] at 2013-06-26 21:00:42 (1 month ago) - [Quote] - [Report]
TrueBanger wrote:
@ BoB In "The end of Torrentbytes" -thread was something about selling digital invites and "kisses"... idk why that didn't work out?
My theory, and that's all it is so don't anyone read into it, is no one wants a financial link to the site, regardless of how its done be it fake sites or tartan smoke the link will still be public, so regardless of suggestions the problem will remain until someone takes up the poison chalice. Donations, profit from selling fictitious items will still = "income" + site bills in a name & paid = outgoing, if the site gets busted then they dont go after coders or moderators they want the person behind the cash flow. In the eyes of the authorities that's the big kahoona, the main man, the supplier, the evil illegal file sharing pirate scum. It wouldn't take much for the authorities to link the two. Even paypal can make that link easy and have already done so.
But that's a theory, the 11th hopefully will prove me wrong and the site will go on for another 8 years at least.
We can wire these people money but when a large amount of people do that, the income generated causes the banks to get suspicious and investigate the recipient in case that it might be due to illegal activities. Then the government gets involved due to tax evasion and then next thing you know, you have a roommate called Bubba in a 6x6 cell.
+ the fact that when they find out that this site has been online 8+ years they can slam you with arbitrary amount of taxes for the whole period (including intrests). Even if you avoid jail,you end up with 100 000+ euros worth of upayed taxes in your hand.
Atleast here in finland the tax office is well known of pulling ridiculous sums from the hat if they find out that you have income which has not been taxed.
What if you work out a way of limiting it so there is only ever a constant trickle of funds coming through? Just enough to pay everything off without building reserves. Would the amount required still be large enough to rouse suspicion?
What if you work out a way of limiting it so there is only ever a constant trickle of funds coming through? Just enough to pay everything off without building reserves. Would the amount required still be large enough to rouse suspicion?
I don't think it's the amounts. Maybe they will get interested about numerous transfers from different people every month.
After a few months it generates a pattern and that will be suspicious.