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#1534403 by collanderDonor (Power User) at 2013-06-23 14:22:17 (1 month ago) - [Quote] - [Report]Top

BiGZeus wrote:

I see, the way i read it a while ago was the site was being kept going by what i assumed where a few people paying out of there own pocket which i assumed meant they where just grabbing there debit cards and paying for hosting, my bad it seems

No, you are right. The site is being kept alive by a chosen few.

#1534404 by BiGZeus (Power User) at 2013-06-23 15:18:42 (1 month ago) - [Quote] - [Report]Top

so how are these people paying for the site with out personal information

#1534409 by EarwigDonor (VIP) at 2013-06-23 15:48:30 (1 month ago) - [Quote] - [Report]Top

BiGZeus wrote:

so how are these people paying for the site with out personal information

Things are set up with false information I would imagine...

#1534416 by BiGZeus (Power User) at 2013-06-23 18:58:17 (1 month ago) - [Quote] - [Report]Top

is it not possible to wire these people money ?

#1534419 by collanderDonor (Power User) at 2013-06-23 19:22:24 (1 month ago) - [Quote] - [Report]Top

We can wire these people money but when a large amount of people do that, the income generated causes the banks to get suspicious and investigate the recipient in case that it might be due to illegal activities. Then the government gets involved due to tax evasion and then next thing you know, you have a roommate called Bubba in a 6x6 cell.

Last edited by collander at 2013-06-23 19:22:47

#1534421 by sniperfin (Camo admin) at 2013-06-23 19:45:14 (1 month ago) - [Quote] - [Report]Top

collander wrote:

We can wire these people money but when a large amount of people do that, the income generated causes the banks to get suspicious and investigate the recipient in case that it might be due to illegal activities. Then the government gets involved due to tax evasion and then next thing you know, you have a roommate called Bubba in a 6x6 cell.

+ the fact that when they find out that this site has been online 8+ years they can slam you with arbitrary amount of taxes for the whole period (including intrests). Even if you avoid jail,you end up with 100 000+ euros worth of upayed taxes in your hand.
Atleast here in finland the tax office is well known of pulling ridiculous sums from the hat if they find out that you have income which has not been taxed.

Last edited by sniperfin at 2013-06-23 23:17:22

#1534437 by BiGZeus (Power User) at 2013-06-23 22:32:39 (1 month ago) - [Quote] - [Report]Top

well i guess i'm lucky that in the uk our police force couldn't catch a cold, but I have read every post in both threads about the demise of tb and with (pre-paid cards, bit coins, Paypal and another 100 ways of paying)
It seems the only real way for this to work is out is to have a martyr and i completely understand why no one wants that job.

but thanks for the reply guys

Last edited by BiGZeus at 2013-06-23 22:32:55

#1534438 by unknown[81460] at 2013-06-23 22:45:08 (1 month ago) - [Quote] - [Report]Top

:lol: @ sniper

#1534446 by sniperfin (Camo admin) at 2013-06-23 23:18:25 (1 month ago) - [Quote] - [Report]Top

Okay, there was one  0 too much, my mistake.

#1534547 by TrueBangerDonor (Power User) at 2013-06-25 16:10:25 (1 month ago) - [Quote] - [Report]Top

Did everybody ran out of ideas, or why did it get so quiet? Sniper scared everybody off? :lol:

#1534549 by BiGZeus (Power User) at 2013-06-25 17:04:38 (1 month ago) - [Quote] - [Report]Top

tb needs a martyr it would seem

#1534553 by TrueBangerDonor (Power User) at 2013-06-25 17:45:34 (1 month ago) - [Quote] - [Report]Top

Sorry for asking, but i can't remember one thing: What was the problem in "selling" made up digital stuff? Was it that somebody will blow the whistle again? Ok, maybe PP or similar will get suspicious about the amounts, but that's what ebay or similar seller do......


idk, i'm talking out of my ass, i guess.

#1534575 by tokolDonor (Sarcastic Admin) at 2013-06-26 00:25:47 (1 month ago) - [Quote] - [Report]Top

They started asking for proof of shipping.

#1534606 by pye088jDonor (Power User) at 2013-06-26 12:02:42 (1 month ago) - [Quote] - [Report]Top

Handcrafted toothpicks for 10$ a pop? IŽd buy that! Or is this "front" thing a goner?

#1534626 by TrueBangerDonor (Power User) at 2013-06-26 16:24:56 (1 month ago) - [Quote] - [Report]Top

I think it would be a huge nuisance to the staff to actually mail this stuff.. i dunno...

edit:
It actually crossed my mind too, but if you have to show proof of shipping and 40 people buy these "toothpicks", it's going to be a real pain to mail them all

Last edited by TrueBanger at 2013-06-26 16:27:07

#1534637 by unknown[81460] at 2013-06-26 18:14:18 (1 month ago) - [Quote] - [Report]Top

Make a database or a bit of software and sell that.  just something silly, pay to download, no need for shipping

#1534640 by TrueBangerDonor (Power User) at 2013-06-26 19:19:43 (1 month ago) - [Quote] - [Report]Top

@ BoB In "The end of Torrentbytes" -thread was something about selling digital invites and "kisses"...  idk why that didn't work out?

#1534643 by BiGZeus (Power User) at 2013-06-26 19:40:41 (1 month ago) - [Quote] - [Report]Top

want to buy a digital kiss NOW!

#1534649 by unknown[81460] at 2013-06-26 21:00:42 (1 month ago) - [Quote] - [Report]Top

TrueBanger wrote:

@ BoB In "The end of Torrentbytes" -thread was something about selling digital invites and "kisses"...  idk why that didn't work out?

My theory, and that's all it is so don't anyone read into it, is no one wants a financial link to the site, regardless of how its done be it fake sites or tartan smoke the link will still be public, so regardless of suggestions the problem will remain until someone takes up the poison chalice.  Donations, profit from selling fictitious items will still = "income" + site bills in a name & paid = outgoing, if the site gets busted then they dont go after coders or moderators they want the person behind the cash flow.  In the eyes of the authorities that's the big kahoona, the main man, the supplier, the evil illegal file sharing pirate scum.  It wouldn't take much for the authorities to link the two.  Even paypal can make that link easy and have already done so.

But that's a theory, the 11th hopefully will prove me wrong and the site will go on for another 8 years at least.

#1534661 by TrueBangerDonor (Power User) at 2013-06-27 00:14:02 (1 month ago) - [Quote] - [Report]Top

BoB wrote:


But that's a theory, the 11th hopefully will prove me wrong and the site will go on for another 8 years at least.

So... 11.7. is the day of reckoning?

#1534662 by DXDDonor (Die-hard Staff) at 2013-06-27 00:17:07 (1 month ago) - [Quote] - [Report]Top

It's thor's-day so it might just as well be.

#1534673 by unknown[81460] at 2013-06-27 07:05:07 (1 month ago) - [Quote] - [Report]Top

I meant to say 11th hour :slap:

aka last minute

#1534715 by th3gav3Donor (Power User) at 2013-06-27 17:25:44 (1 month ago) - [Quote] - [Report]Top

sniperfin wrote:

collander wrote:

We can wire these people money but when a large amount of people do that, the income generated causes the banks to get suspicious and investigate the recipient in case that it might be due to illegal activities. Then the government gets involved due to tax evasion and then next thing you know, you have a roommate called Bubba in a 6x6 cell.

+ the fact that when they find out that this site has been online 8+ years they can slam you with arbitrary amount of taxes for the whole period (including intrests). Even if you avoid jail,you end up with 100 000+ euros worth of upayed taxes in your hand.
Atleast here in finland the tax office is well known of pulling ridiculous sums from the hat if they find out that you have income which has not been taxed.

What if you work out a way of limiting it so there is only ever a constant trickle of funds coming through? Just enough to pay everything off without building reserves. Would the amount required still be large enough to rouse suspicion?

#1534727 by TrueBangerDonor (Power User) at 2013-06-27 20:22:43 (1 month ago) - [Quote] - [Report]Top

th3gav3 wrote:

What if you work out a way of limiting it so there is only ever a constant trickle of funds coming through? Just enough to pay everything off without building reserves. Would the amount required still be large enough to rouse suspicion?

I don't think it's the amounts. Maybe they will get interested about numerous transfers from different people every month.
After a few months it generates a pattern and that will be suspicious.

#1534786 by ferndave (Power User) at 2013-06-29 01:45:00 (4 weeks ago) - [Quote] - [Report]Top

Every time I hit the bookmark for here, I dread it isn't going to load. Like Russian Roulette. I honestly will feel like I've lost a friend.

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