So to sum up: The end of TB is neigh at the end of June, or shortly after.
False or not?
It would be disappointing, but understandable. I already have huge respect for the organisation and members who have made this possible for the last 8 years! Chapeau!
It would be disappointing, but understandable. I already have huge respect for the organisation and members who have made this possible for the last 8 years! Chapeau!
Amen to that.
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what part of "no one wants to put their name to the sites income" do people not understand ? Every suggestion requires someone to do just that.
So who has done this in the past (or present)? Only you?
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There have been others however its not my place to talk for them and whether they chose to make that public is their choice not mine. What happens from this point on is none of my business. I am certain though that with this sites history the game wont be over just like that.
Well, Like I already said, "one month."
The service would most probably have something to do with hosting.
There might also be an option of you not actually getting anything and the chunk the site is taking would be quite a bit larger.
Sounds like a decent idea. You could sell ultra low-end VPS servers and require all who signup for the service to supply a "coupon code", which would actually be the TBy user ID. All the money would go toward the site since there would never be any actual VPSes for sale. The TBy user ID requirement serve both to keep track of who has donated and to weed out potential "real customers" (people who don't know it's just a front).
But when other trackers have done this type of thing its been highly criticized in the past......................
If the donations don't cover it, close the place down. Don't start selling crap ffs.
Or perhaps.
"Someone" Sets up a small server company (piss easy to do, fact) starts with the whole Support TBy, buy our hosting blah blah blah then uses the established community to not only donate to the site but to become a customer of "someones" brand new hosting company.
This crap has been happening online for a very long time.
Its a slippery slide into shit, this whole type of thing.
But when other trackers have done this type of thing its been highly criticized in the past.
Unless you're using multiple accounts, I'm not sure how you make that assessment only being here for a month.
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If the donations don't cover it, close the place down. Don't start selling crap ffs.
The donations would easily cover the cost. The community here is wonderful, and generous. If you'd take the time to read the thread in full it's been made clear that processing donations is the issue.
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"Someone" Sets up a small server company (piss easy to do, fact) starts with the whole Support TBy, buy our hosting blah blah blah then uses the established community to not only donate to the site but to become a customer of "someones" brand new hosting company.
This crap has been happening online for a very long time.
Its a slippery slide into shit, this whole type of thing.
Paranoid much? There is nothing insidious about it, it's a way to keep the site alive. Your thinly-veiled suggestion that somebody is a profiteer is ridiculous. If it weren't for the kindness and generosity of certain staff members the site would have been gone months ago. They have given up much for the enjoyment of us all, and deserve our gratitude and respect, not horseshit allegations that couldn't be farther from the truth.
If TB becomes a webhoster I will move all my sites no questions asked. At this point there are 3 and 1 is high traffic so a good hoster with a good cause is always welcome.
And if you let the hoster be run by some other people of the community you can register TB there with fake details. Problem solved?
They are not really expecting you to move all your hosting to them.
What they are saying is that they will makeup some company as a front to fund this site.
Sure by law they will have to register the company and pay taxes etc to avoid fraud etc.... but don't expect it to be some global seedbox vpn company that everyone will move their hosting to.
The idea is likely this....
You pay for a service. A small one such as a 10 Euro VPN or something....
But.....
Get nothing in return for it !
If you did actually want something for it then due to it being a business etc they would have to supply you wiht whatever you ordered, but then I guess that kinda negates the point of what they would be trying to achieve.
Personally I think there are more pitfalls to this than meets the eye and running a hosting company in order to fund an illegal torrent site is likely to only add to issues down the line IMO.
Also if there are issues with disgruntled ex members hell bent on informing PayPal of accounts etc... What's to say things will be different if this went ahead ? And the repurcussions are likely to be a little steeper due to the nature of thigns...
But when other trackers have done this type of thing its been highly criticized in the past.
Unless you're using multiple accounts, I'm not sure how you make that assessment only being here for a month.
Not that I have to explain myself. I had an account here since the first few weeks and was a member of TB since the very early days too.
These forums have been my second home for a long time.
I am merely quoting many many people over the years when I say "when donations don't pay the bills we close the place down" or I can add to that now that "if donations don't pay the bills and staff cant pay the bills we close the place down"
This has been in one way or another the philosophy, not in a million years do I want to see this site go, even though in my opinion these forums have been going downhill for a while now they are still better than a majority of forums/communities out there.
This just feels like a small step towards becoming what has been so widely criticized in the past.
Why stop at the hosting thing? Why not just do the whole P2L thing and that will fix everything.
Paranoid? Perhaps. Just because I might be paranoid does not mean someone is not trying to do something underhanded.
But when other trackers have done this type of thing its been highly criticized in the past.
Unless you're using multiple accounts, I'm not sure how you make that assessment only being here for a month.
Not that I have to explain myself. I had an account here since the first few weeks and was a member of TB since the very early days too.
These forums have been my second home for a long time.
I am merely quoting many many people over the years when I say "when donations don't pay the bills we close the place down" or I can add to that now that "if donations don't pay the bills and staff cant pay the bills we close the place down"
This has been in one way or another the philosophy, not in a million years do I want to see this site go, even though in my opinion these forums have been going downhill for a while now they are still better than a majority of forums/communities out there.
This just feels like a small step towards becoming what has been so widely criticized in the past.
Why stop at the hosting thing? Why not just do the whole P2L thing and that will fix everything.
Paranoid? Perhaps. Just because I might be paranoid does not mean someone is not trying to do something underhanded.
Still not getting it aren't you? It's not a question of getting money.It's a question of getting money to the hosts.
Having all the money in the world to buy gas for my car won't get me anywhere if I can't find a gas station.
At first I tough the main problem of TBy was to get the money from us to TBy.
Then I tough it was to get the money from us to the hoster.
then from TBy to the hoster.
and then from ... i don't ever know ... its seems that the main problem of TBy is its existence.... and a way to get the bills pay.
i give up, when a real plan gets in action, wake me up, t'il then il go sleep
The problem has always been and still is to pay the hosts from multiple income sources.
Paypal used to collect these multiple sources,pool the money,take a cut and pay the hosts.When they found out that they were doing it for an illegal web site, they stopped doing it.Therein lies the problem.
I am merely quoting many many people over the years when I say "when donations don't pay the bills we close the place down" or I can add to that now that "if donations don't pay the bills and staff cant pay the bills we close the place down"
so how do you think this is different from that philosophy? It's simply not possible to use PayPal as a collection point for user donations to pay the bills so the idea is simply to have a host company as a front to collect donations. Just because it doesn't say "donate" and says "buy" doesn't change anything except in your mind.
what about using one of these to pay the bills http://www.moneysupermarket.com/prepaidcards/ or http://instantvcc.eu/ you dont have to register them just get everyone to do bank transfers into it for donations then pay server costs with the card which is basically the same as a debit card.
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