How long till some ayatollah decides it would be a good idea to arm these "youths" and start smuggling in guns? Besides if a criminal wants a gun he can get it way more easier than a person who does it legit.
yes, I also fear an Arabian spring here in sweden
and sweden just gives up, because we cant hurt these young ppl, they just dont understand our culture.....
but getting a gun is not hard, i can get handgranades for 1000sek(110euro ?), ak-47 for 15000sek, random guns for about 1500-20000sek(revolvers are often the cheapest), shotguns for 500-3000sek
was even offered a crate of Uzi that a guy needed to unload for 50 000sek, cheap as hell, but i was just like "WTF!! dude! get that away from me" he showed me the stuff in public hhaha
also i could not afford it I can also "order" a rifle, which means they will break into someone's house, a hunter most likely and take that rifle and sell it to me.
Yes we dont have weapons everywhere like in USA, but if you know who to talk to, weapon is very easy to find in Sweden.
ofc i have cut all these ties because i am a law abiding citizen right now but some still call to have a random chat so if i ever wanted some stuff, like if someone hurt my dog or my family, then I would take up the phone I told the Swedish Defence League that if there truly were gonna be a war, then they could call me, protesting and shit does nothing
#1531789 by Timex (Power User) at 2013-05-22 22:01:23 (2 months ago) - [Report]
Two gun shops in town and one is also the cell phone provider.
Break into a home here and you might get shot trying.
#1531793 by mrunne (Power User) at 2013-05-22 22:20:12 (2 months ago) - [Report]
Timex wrote:
Two gun shops in town and one is also the cell phone provider.
Break into a home here and you might get shot trying.
I wish I could provide the same level of safety for my home, best I can do is call the police cause if you take up so much as a bat to defend yourself its "excessive" and you get to pay the criminals restitution.
A police station in Rågsved is now on fire. The police is still standing down, however.
If this whole event isn't an eye-opener I don't know what is. Hopefully they'll venture into the richer parts of Stockholm and spread some culture. Not even the leftist scum can turn a blind eye then.
A police station in Rågsved is now on fire. The police is still standing down, however.
If this whole event isn't an eye-opener I don't know what is. Hopefully they'll venture into the richer parts of Stockholm and spread some culture. Not even the leftist scum can turn a blind eye then.
I guess the Police are just watching the situation develop because they have "orders from above" not to make the situation worse. Rioting has now spread to 18 suburbs btw, and a tow truck was set on fire that went out to remove a burned wreck.
I officially hate people now. There's no way SverigeDemokraterna won't get a huge boost from this.
I feel you, the people who are hurting the most from this are those law biting immigrants who actually are working their butt off to make themselves and their kids a better future.
Those who want to integrate or already have integrated.
This is actually going to affect our country too, true finns who are based on euro critisism and immigration critisism got their votes based on the immigration situation here, which is not nearly as severe as it is in sweden, now they just have to say that look at sweden, thats our future too (which is a reasonable argument, our immigrants are packed on certain areas, but the scale is just smaller, we have much less immigrants than sweden, the possibility for us becoming like sweden if we continue taking immigrants this way is not too far fetched).
In a way Im glad that this happened now (it was unavoidable, but when it happened now when the situation here in finland is not as bad as it is in sweden, there is actually a chance that we can prevent it going there), now the politicians are forced to address the issue, really forced.
I guess the Police are just watching the situation develop because they have "orders from above" not to make the situation worse.
Yes, of course. I'm not blaming the police on site, it's their superiors who are to blame.
Their tactic about not making the situation worse is clearly not working. It is seriously time to put the foot down.
Debatt on SVT tonight will be about these riots. Let's see how many times they mention that this is "their cry for help".
Debatt on SVT tonight will be about these riots. Let's see how many times they mention that this is "their cry for help".
Yep, even hinting that the mob who causes mayhem also has some responsibility would label the person islamofobic racist. Todays world political correctness is seen as a virtue, no matter the subject. And the irony is that it is exactly the reason why we are currently in this situation.
If you can't talk about issues as they are, you never gonna find any solutions,period.
Our laws provide an opportunity to protest in civil and peacefull manner,it's one of the foundations among freedom of speech and expression. Thats what people in scandinavia have done so far, they have gone to the streets and let their voices heard, with a peacefull manner, the subject has been the main issue, in this case the destruction has been the main issue.
If you want sympathy and listeners for your cause, attack the issue with arguments, gather a mass of people who support you and demonstrate your cause in the streets, thats how it has been so far here in scandinavia.
wow, i hate that oisain cantwell from aftonbladet!!!!!
now he compare the riots happening RIGHT now, to ones that happens several hundreds years ago !!
like "ethnic swedes rioted a lot as well, in the 1800 they rioted about bla bla bla and in the 1850 bla bla bla, wrong to blame it on immigation"
moron, we were not civilized country by then, now we are and this is only happening because we allowed them to be blessed to enter our country, and this is their thanks
wow, i hate that oisain cantwell from aftonbladet!!!!!
now he compare the riots happening RIGHT now, to ones that happens several hundreds years ago !!
like "ethnic swedes rioted a lot as well, in the 1800 they rioted about bla bla bla and in the 1850 bla bla bla, wrong to blame it on immigation"
moron, we were not civilized country by then, now we are and this is only happening because we allowed them to be blessed to enter our country, and this is their thanks
Well, thats the only argument they can give when the only goal is have an argument where the blame is either shifted or totally avoided.
This was totally expected, the pc multiculturalists have no touch in reality.
#1531925 by Chill (Power User) at 2013-05-23 16:51:17 (2 months ago) - [Report]
Well, thats the only argument they can give when the only goal is have an argument where the blame is either shifted or totally avoided.
This was totally expected, the pc multiculturalists have no touch in reality.
dont worry the fellow travelers in the worldwide press are making sure to do their part...
outbursts with their roots in segregation, neglect and poverty. The Swedish model of welfare - such as its 480 days of parental leave for each child - hides another side.
Some 15 percent of the population is foreign born, the highest in the Nordic region. The rise of the anti-immigrant Sweden Democrats party, which has called for a curfew in response to the violence, has polarized Swedes.
Metros and trains out of Stockholm center late at night are full of exhausted-looking Arabic or Spanish speaking immigrants returning home from menial jobs. Even second generation immigrants struggle to find white collar employment.
Sweden is filled with dumb people. Just look at fjollträsk (aka stockholm).
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you're just jealous
#1531933 by bolg (Power User) at 2013-05-23 17:57:53 (2 months ago) - [Report]
They're not completely off with the 'neglect'. The politicians have been transfering money out of the municipality owned housing companies, which has now lead to a substantial rent increase (around 20%) to collect money for the needed renovations.
This is in no way an excuse for the riots, but I find it remarkable that it has almost gone uncommented in media. If this had been a private company (then it would never have happened), the media would've been all over them, like they are with every price hike (no matter how small) in a privatized industry.