My god i wish Sweden would just implement something a kin to Japan when it comes to foreigners.
As in: Sure, come and stay, try and make a life for yourself, but should you fuck it up and commit a crime, then you're fucking out of here.
The problem is that a policy like that doesn't really work when dealing with refuges. You can't just send them back to a war-torn country. And lets face it, most immigrants in Sweden are refuges.
But if they do commit crimes or any illegal activity, send them back. We gave them a chance, if they fuck up, out you go.
My god i wish Sweden would just implement something a kin to Japan when it comes to foreigners.
As in: Sure, come and stay, try and make a life for yourself, but should you fuck it up and commit a crime, then you're fucking out of here.
The problem is that a policy like that doesn't really work when dealing with refuges. You can't just send them back to a war-torn country. And lets face it, most immigrants in Sweden are refuges.
Why not ?
If you are a young male coming here from a warzone and your acts here are raping and doing other crimes, you don't deserve to be here. There is no obligation for us to keep you here.
Also refugee as a word these days is so vague. Take the somalis for example, they come here as refugees escaping the war in their country, but yet they visit their relatives there and many even send their kids (mostly girls) there to get either operated or get married.
The last real refugees who came to scandinavia are those who came here after the balkan war, most people from middle east and africa today are not refugees, the real refugees are those who live in those horrible camps in africa and have nothing, no money to come here.
The guys in their 20's are no refugees.
But in the end, sweden is a lost cause already, there is no return, I just hope that our politicians could see it as a warning and would do something before it's too late here too.
#1531593 by mrunne (Power User) at 2013-05-21 20:29:28 (2 months ago) - [Report]
sniperfin wrote:
bonus wrote:
Snuffsis wrote:
My god i wish Sweden would just implement something a kin to Japan when it comes to foreigners.
As in: Sure, come and stay, try and make a life for yourself, but should you fuck it up and commit a crime, then you're fucking out of here.
The problem is that a policy like that doesn't really work when dealing with refuges. You can't just send them back to a war-torn country. And lets face it, most immigrants in Sweden are refuges.
Why not ?
If you are a young male coming here from a warzone and your acts here are raping and doing other crimes, you don't deserve to be here. There is no obligation for us to keep you here.
Also refugee as a word these days is so vague. Take the somalis for example, they come here as refugees escaping the war in their country, but yet they visit their relatives there and many even send their kids (mostly girls) there to get either operated or get married.
The last real refugees who came to scandinavia are those who came here after the balkan war, most people from middle east and africa today are not refugees, the real refugees are those who live in those horrible camps in africa and have nothing, no money to come here.
The guys in their 20's are no refugees.
But in the end, sweden is a lost cause already, there is no return, I just hope that our politicians could see it as a warning and would do something before it's too late here too.
Fat chance, they seem to go along meek as sheep whenever someone says something What we need is some strong leadership for once.
this culmination is everything i hate about liberal hippy bullshit. a bunch of do gooders and bleeding hearts completely ignorant to the ways of the world. hardest thing to grasp is why that mentality is taking over the majority of westernized societies. ruining so much of what driven, smart people have worked so hard and in some cases died for. just giving it away without a fight when in a fight said party could never be beaten in my lifetime. that said there's also a big difference between lending a helping hand and willingly fucking up your countries and lives bending over backwards for people that often don't give a shit about you or worse hate you. the people that enable horrible immigrants or poor lazy shits like this are just as bad and deserve an equally harsh punishment.
#1531614 by sillen (Power User) at 2013-05-21 22:39:20 (2 months ago) - [Report]
I find it weird that suddenly this subject is so interesting to the media. Shit has been going on for years and just now suddenly they start writing about it because they burned a few more cars than normal... A few times a week you see police raids / police helicopters chasing "youths" around in these cute little picturesque areas of stockholm.
Last time I tried to go to tensta police told me to gtfo because of "youths" throwing rocks and shit. Day before that I almost got my truck raided by a bunch of "youths" luckily they couldn't figure out how to get in so I just drove off with a few of them still climbing on the roof. Hopefully they fell off and broke their legs or something.
Day after that another truck got robbed so the police had sealed the whole area.
After that I refused to go there, haven't been there since.
Last time I went to rinkeby a bunch of youths gathered around my truck so I figured it was time to go. Only they got their friends with cars to block the way.
I started laughing pretty bad because I knew I only had diapers and toilet paper in the back so yeah congratulations on your loot... Luckily that truck had extra locks and steel bars etc around the doors (specially made for these areas haha) so I just waited for them to get bored and got out of there.
Told the bosses I'm never going there again. Haven't been there since!
I know we're one of the few companies that still deliver to these areas soon their stores will have to get goods themselves but I guess they will just close/move somewhere else.
So gj youths soon you won't have any stores / go get your mail parcels etc somewhere else.
Only problems I've had in husby/akalla is that almost no one speaks swedish ^^
never been threatened or anything though...
Last time I tried to go to tensta police told me to gtfo because of "youths" throwing rocks and shit. Day before that I almost got my truck raided by a bunch of "youths" luckily they couldn't figure out how to get in so I just drove off with a few of them still climbing on the roof. Hopefully they fell off and broke their legs or something..
what a weird coincidence that just yesterday some guy on reddit posted a pic of "youths" on the side of the road throwing rocks at cars (happened in Detroit of course so you can ave a better understanding of why Detroit is in the bad shape it is)
It's kinda pathetic that they only arrested 6 people last night. One of them should have already been in "prison" but apperently wasn't. It's our pathetic legal systems fault, if these youths knew that they wouldn't see the sun the next 3 years, they wouldn't tourch up other peoples property.
Had those things happened in my neighborhood there would be some dead "youths", and justifiably so. That's such a beautiful part of the world and the women are unspeakably gorgeous, but I wouldn't live in a place where a person isn't allowed to protect themselves. (I'm assuming you can't legally carry afirearm in Sweden). Some kid jumps on my vehicle in a threatening manner he will wish he hadn't because a 9mm goes through a car window or roof like this not even there.
Had those things happened in my neighborhood there would be some dead "youths", and justifiably so. That's such a beautiful part of the world and the women are unspeakably gorgeous, but I wouldn't live in a place where a person isn't allowed to protect themselves. (I'm assuming you can't legally carry afirearm in Sweden). Some kid jumps on my vehicle in a threatening manner he will wish he hadn't because a 9mm goes through a car window or roof like this not even there.
Sometimes, i want to be able to use a gun against an assailant too But the problem here is that if gun laws where the same here as they are in the US. What would stop these "youths" from getting a hold of firearms? The only reason they currently don't have any is because it's close to impossible for them to even see one.
Out of curiosity, what would happen if you did. Say you're driving along and some loon jumps on your car and starts bashing through thx windshield with a brick. For whatever reason you have an illegal firearm, pull it out and shoot the guy. What are the legal ramifications for the assailant and the assaulted?
Out of curiosity, what would happen if you did. Say you're driving along and some loon jumps on your car and starts bashing through thx windshield with a brick. For whatever reason you have an illegal firearm, pull it out and shoot the guy. What are the legal ramifications for the assailant and the assaulted?
That depends. It is possible to shoot someone and just get sentenced for possessing an illegal firearm but it's only possible if you fear for your life and can't do anything else. If you are for instance sitting in a car and you're able to drive away, you will be sentenced for the damage you've caused to the person you shoot. Our legal system is a bit complicated when it comes to causing injuries to another person, especially when firearms are involved.
I feel sorry for counties like sweden , immigration/taking in refugees is a bad idea. Australia is getting pretty bad, but if shit like this happened some aussies riot back. Then we get blamed for being racist :\.
Simple fact if you dont like the country GTFO.
#1531659 by Timex (Power User) at 2013-05-22 03:19:02 (2 months ago) - [Report]
Basic common sense and Laws say you just can't use deadly force unless that is the only option...other wise you are the "bad guy".
States and City's that do not infringe on the Right to Arms have less violent crime as "bad guys" fear running into a possibly armed victim.
#1531668 by Xi0nic (Power User) at 2013-05-22 05:27:53 (2 months ago) - [Report]
If ya'll had a fence on your border, this wouldn't be happening.
#1531672 by mrunne (Power User) at 2013-05-22 07:32:58 (2 months ago) - [Report]
Arnemes wrote:
mbodnar wrote:
sillen wrote:
....stories of getting attacked...
Had those things happened in my neighborhood there would be some dead "youths", and justifiably so. That's such a beautiful part of the world and the women are unspeakably gorgeous, but I wouldn't live in a place where a person isn't allowed to protect themselves. (I'm assuming you can't legally carry afirearm in Sweden). Some kid jumps on my vehicle in a threatening manner he will wish he hadn't because a 9mm goes through a car window or roof like this not even there.
Sometimes, i want to be able to use a gun against an assailant too But the problem here is that if gun laws where the same here as they are in the US. What would stop these "youths" from getting a hold of firearms? The only reason they currently don't have any is because it's close to impossible for them to even see one.
How long till some ayatollah decides it would be a good idea to arm these "youths" and start smuggling in guns? Besides if a criminal wants a gun he can get it way more easier than a person who does it legit.
#1531679 by Chill (Power User) at 2013-05-22 09:40:02 (2 months ago) - [Report]
Norwegian media is biased I had to log on here just to find out if these "Swedish Youths" were of swedish origin or not, which seemed kinda unlikely with all the rock throwing.
I had to laugh our very loud when I saw one of the papers here had asked an expert if throwing rocks was normal behavior for Swedish youth, and he replied something like "no."
I would further like to invite these Youths to my neighborhood in Norway. We are white, black, brown and Hispanic, and everyone behaves within what is expected and people help each other out. If someone starts setting fire to cars on my parking lot tho, they can pick between 3 different calibers, or if they are interested they can have steel arrows! We have 12 gauge, 30-30 and 30-06 hunting munition in my home, also my dog bites pretty hard. Oh, I don't give a fuck Welcome.
#1531701 by Chill (Power User) at 2013-05-22 12:15:40 (2 months ago) - [Report]
lol2k345 wrote:
Norwegian media is biased I had to log on here just to find out if these "Swedish Youths" were of swedish origin or not, which seemed kinda unlikely with all the rock throwing.
you know what the sad part of your post is? Swedes go to norwegian media in thoughts that it's less politicall correct then swedish media.
We are in intressting times where the people think the goverment is lying to them and also the media. Who will watch the watchers of the watchers??
Norwegian media is biased I had to log on here just to find out if these "Swedish Youths" were of swedish origin or not, which seemed kinda unlikely with all the rock throwing.
you know what the sad part of your post is? Swedes go to norwegian media in thoughts that it's less politicall correct then swedish media.
We are in intressting times where the people think the goverment is lying to them and also the media. Who will watch the watchers of the watchers??
Don't care anymore, I find the truth with little extra effort (like on here), society is already fucked as I see it, and I will vote as right as you can get in September in the hopes of stopping this coming to Norway unless it is too late tho. If it is too late, I'm well armed so no problem
#1531722 by Jooboo (Power User) at 2013-05-22 15:45:32 (2 months ago) - [Report]
Xi0nic wrote:
If ya'll had a fence on your border, this wouldn't be happening.
Yeah to protect us against finns ^^
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Norwegian media is biased I had to log on here just to find out if these "Swedish Youths" were of swedish origin or not, which seemed kinda unlikely with all the rock throwing.
Well they look like talibans and they yell "alah akhbar"... Swedish tradition is it not?
In a shocking random act of journalism the stroy actually appeared on the BBC, but of course it is a completely loaded headline to justify the rioting because evil police shot a man.
According to the immigration minister of sweden only 1% of asylumseekers are able to take care of themselves 99% depend on government taking care of them.
It's pretty clear where this road leads.
#1531755 by mrunne (Power User) at 2013-05-22 18:22:03 (2 months ago) - [Report]
According to the immigration minister of sweden only 1% of asylumseekers are able to take care of themselves 99% depend on government taking care of them.
It's pretty clear where this road leads.
A man has died and two are injured after police responded to a reported machete attack in south-east London.
The government is reported to be treating the attack as a suspected terrorist incident and the prime minister said it was "truly shocking".
Eyewitnesses said a man was assaulted in a Woolwich street by two individuals who were later shot by officers.
Local MP Nick Raynsford said the dead man was a soldier at Woolwich barracks but this has not been confirmed.
Home Secretary Theresa May has summoned a meeting of the government's emergency response committee Cobra to assess the incident.
It is understood she has also requested updates from the Metropolitan Police Commissioner, Bernard Hogan-Howe, and the head of MI5.
Whitehall sources have told the BBC it is "a fair supposition" that the incident was a terrorist incident but police have not commented publicly on the suggestion.
BBC political editor Nick Robinson said the police view is that the attack may have been filmed and footage may exist.
People carrying out the attack were heard to say Allahu Akbar [God is Great], said our political editor.
On Twitter, the Mayor of London Boris Johnson described the attack as a "sickening deluded and unforgivable act of violence".
Cabinet in emergency meeting for muslims beheading people (a soldier) in the streets of london.
Nick Robinson Political editor Senior Whitehall sources have told the BBC the Woolwich attackers are thought to have tried to film their attack whilst shouting "Allahu Akbar" - God is Great. The men were said to have been of Muslim appearance.
What we need is some strong leadership for once.
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