Serious Chat > Jimmy Savile

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#1502989 by unknown[81460] at 2012-10-21 16:18:10 (9 months ago) - [Report]

This has been all over the UK news for some time now.

For those who do not know who Jimmy Savile is see here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmy_Saville

When I was growing up he was a huge celebrity and hosted a kids show called "Jim'll fix it", in which kids wrote in making a wish and he fixed their wish. Hell I wrote in as a child and my wish was to meet The A-Team :lol:

Jimmy seemed at the time to be a great guy and down with the kids,,,, now it seems he was more down than everyone thought.

Allegations and people coming out the woodwork claiming they were abused as a child now make it seem that Jimmy was one of the most prolific Paedophiles ever. He has also been liked with Gary Glitter another well known ex celeb / Paedophile (you may know him from Magenti's Avatar), if not here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gary_Glitter .

What I find most confusing about this case is the fact he got away with it for so many years then not long after his death people started coming forward. He was in the limelight right up till his death. So why did people not come forward when he could have be prosecuted for his crimes ?

Discuss.

#1502992 by mbodnar (Airborne Mod) at 2012-10-21 16:21:52 (9 months ago) - [Report]

Same with Penn State University. People knew and did nothing, they're as guilty as the perp imo.

#1502996 by unknown[81460] at 2012-10-21 16:28:02 (9 months ago) - [Report]

I have never heard of the Penn State thing until now, here is some reading for those who like me hadnt heard of it: http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/timst … t-problem/

I think we have all heard about the churches involvement in these type of cases so at this point for the sake of an original topic in Serious Chat can we please refrain from turning this into the same religious debate that is spread across this entire forum.

#1503001 by Germs Donor

(Paulo DiCanio's Disciple) at 2012-10-21 16:38:17 (9 months ago) - [Report]

I blame the whole of the adult population of the UK.We were just kids but they should have been able to spot that their was something not right about the bloke.As I got into my teens I could tell their was something very odd about him but I was still surprised when this whole story came to light....you couldn't imagine anyone being able to keep something like this covered up for 40 or 50 years.

#1503003 by unknown[81460] at 2012-10-21 16:42:34 (9 months ago) - [Report]

I am hoping this could be the breaking point for the BBC and they will privatise it. BBC chiefs knew about it yet done 0.

#1503006 by qbert95 (Power User) at 2012-10-21 17:07:48 (9 months ago) - [Report]

Sadly in that era (up until the 80's) I suspect this sort of pedophilia was rampant in every part of our society from the Catholic Church to the BBC. I would bet that if they were to investigate schools, corporations, government or any institution of that time they would find numerous untold cases of child abuse and higher up's of that organization involved in covering it all up. This is the disagreement I have with Sniper who seem to only fixated on the Catholic Church. Thankfully times have changed and the stigma attached to the victims of this abuse that forced their families to remain silent are gone so the floodgates open once one brave person stands up to call out these sickos.

#1503011 by AmbientMike (VIP) at 2012-10-21 17:27:10 (9 months ago) - [Report]

BoB wrote:

What I find most confusing about this case is the fact he got away with it for so many years then not long after his death people started coming forward

Exactly this. My biggest bit of confusion seems to be as soon as one person claimed they were abused by him it was almost take as fact that it had to be true.

The weird thing is that you take one look at him and you kind of say, "Yeah, of course he's a paedo".

I don't know what proof they'll ever find but they're looking into leads with some people still alive that might also bee child abusers.

#1503272 by sniperfin (Camo admin) at 2012-10-23 11:44:28 (9 months ago) - [Report]

Watching the grilling of bbc bosses now, looks like they are all excuses and not admitting that it was a clear cover up. The program about saville was shelved when it was found that he is clearly involved in sexual activities with minors.
We have also television company which is tied to the state, here this kind of questionary would be out of question, I like the fact that in britain they are taking it seriously (atleast it looks like it).

#1503276 by Aterlatus (VIP) at 2012-10-23 12:08:55 (9 months ago) - [Report]

In a more general sense, the people working around paedos don't want to think of their colleague as "one of them". There's many instances where it's been discovered beyond reasonable doubt, and the company employing the offender hasn't wanted to take it to the police (for fear of being wrong, damaging the companies image or whatever it may be) so just let them go quietly instead.

#1503277 by Germs Donor

(Paulo DiCanio's Disciple) at 2012-10-23 12:18:05 (9 months ago) - [Report]

I watched Panorama last night (one of the BBC's lonmgest running investigative shows) and they really went at the BBC like a pitbull. I'm just wondering how much of that was for show,to prove to us gullible license payers that the BBC doesn't hide and can actually attack itself when it feels it needs to be held to account?

I'd like to think this Saville furore will also aim the spotlight on the BBC itself and maybe we'll stop being forced to pay a frankly obscene amount of cash to them for having a TV! None of that cash goes to anyone other than the BBC and it's a criminal offence here in the UK not to have a TV license....you can recieve a huge fine for not having one and if you don't pay the fine you can (and people do!) go to prison for it!
They've even changed the law about needing a TV license if you own a PC or games console .....if I own a PC that is capable of watching internet TV or streamed TV then I need a TV license!!!

#1503298 by bolg (Power User) at 2012-10-23 15:20:50 (9 months ago) - [Report]

We have the same system here, and even a government department which collects the money and checks who's got a TV (or a computer with a TV tuner card). Since they aren't allowed to enter your home it's easy to lie and say you don't have a TV. Now there's a suggestion to collect the fee through our taxes, which sucks, but atleast we'll be rid of the department.

And with regular, scheduled, media getting more and more problems thanks to the increase in quality online, on-demand, services maybe they'll close down public service within 20 years or so. One can only hope.

#1503417 by unknown[81460] at 2012-10-24 12:56:32 (9 months ago) - [Report]

Seems he has been "at" it with dead bodies too according to Paul Gambachini.

#1503452 by Germs Donor

(Paulo DiCanio's Disciple) at 2012-10-24 17:11:34 (9 months ago) - [Report]

It seems the DPP(Director of Public prosecutions) was informed of allegations of sex abuse by Saville back in 2009 before his death and it was decided not to progress with investigations or prosections.

Do you remember when Jonathan Kings was jailed for paedophilia back in the '80s? He worked for the BBC in music/presentation too and I'm wondering if there was any connection between him,Saville and Glitter.Someone I saw being interviewed on TV yesterday said that he saw Gary Glitter having sex with a kid in Jimmy Saville's dressing room.
There was also Chris Langham ,comic actor in BBC series "the thick of it",who was jailed for downloading and possessing indecent images of children just a few years ago.

Was there some kind of paedophile ring operating at the BBC?

#1503457 by bolg (Power User) at 2012-10-24 17:22:11 (9 months ago) - [Report]

Germs wrote:

Or; does public service broadcasting attract paedophiles and other sick human beings?

#1503590 by qbert95 (Power User) at 2012-10-25 16:35:43 (9 months ago) - [Report]

Jimmy Savile: Number of victims reach 300, police say

#1504063 by unknown[81460] at 2012-10-28 15:25:36 (9 months ago) - [Report]

Jimmy Savile: Gary Glitter arrested over sex offences

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20114378

Why the hell don't they just burn that nonce at the fkin stake !

#1504216 by beblebox (Power User) at 2012-10-29 15:44:49 (9 months ago) - [Report]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=p … 4dDzNaI0#!

someone got a radio announcer to say something on the radio. Not so serious.

Last edited by beblebox at 2012-10-29 15:45:23

#1506799 by unknown[81460] at 2012-11-15 20:03:44 (8 months ago) - [Report]

seems this plot is getting thicker, and now Dave Lee Travis (DLT) is involved, this is getting sick : http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-20336798

#1506806 by qbert95 (Power User) at 2012-11-15 20:28:26 (8 months ago) - [Report]

BBC bias also blew up in their face when after decades of covering it up the second they got wind that an evil Thatcher Tory might be involved they couldn't have raced to name him fast enough even though he had absolutely nothing to do with it.

#1506816 by mbodnar (Airborne Mod) at 2012-11-15 21:57:47 (8 months ago) - [Report]

Us Westerners are amateurs when it comes to this. Pashto people invite their friends over for dinner, drinks, and anal rape of young boys. It's been going on forever and has absolutely no stigma attached to it. What some consider disgusting is commonplace for others.

#1506818 by ezzy525 Donor

(Not a spy, just a mod.) at 2012-11-15 22:00:02 (8 months ago) - [Report]

mbodnar wrote:

Source? Seriously that sounds fucking too bad to be true.

#1506827 by mbodnar (Airborne Mod) at 2012-11-15 22:52:22 (8 months ago) - [Report]

Well, my source is spending nearly 2 years there but I'm sure it's all over the net. I once had an owner of a trucking company offer me his son for as long as i wanted him to secure a contract. Defiantly not my thing tho. Try a quick google of "bacha bazi party".

#1506828 by Aterlatus (VIP) at 2012-11-15 22:55:05 (8 months ago) - [Report]

BoB wrote:

seems this plot is getting thicker, and now Dave Lee Travis (DLT) is involved, this is getting sick : http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-20336798

Don't be lighting the fire under the stake just yet though. He's been accused of groping a few women (not girls) in the studio during his show. Why they've mentioned Saville every sodding time it's been on the news today I don't know - it's entirely different (although still wrong).

#1506829 by qbert95 (Power User) at 2012-11-15 23:03:11 (8 months ago) - [Report]

Aterlatus wrote:

BoB wrote:

seems this plot is getting thicker, and now Dave Lee Travis (DLT) is involved, this is getting sick : http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-20336798

even if true were there even sexual harassment laws back than? I can't understand what they would be investigating if that is the case and they were "of age" other than a retroactive smearing campaign.

#1506836 by unknown[81460] at 2012-11-16 00:04:07 (8 months ago) - [Report]

@ Aterlatus, I made no accusation other than the fact that its getting out of hand, BBC + these reports of deviant acts.

No smoke without fire, and despite that no guilt till proven.

Its shocking that these are people I looked at as celebs back then and now it seems they were either kiddie fiddlers or just sex pests.

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