Also beware the russians, they infest any free game and go alone, never speak English, and ruin the game for others mostly.
Not being racist, itīs totally true.
Also beware the russians, they infest any free game and go alone, never speak English, and ruin the game for others mostly.
Not being racist, itīs totally true.
So bloody true. They are mostly rude and complete assholes to sadly
You can level lifesteal for woods which is great. Or you level crit and stun when laning but never stats.
Soul ring is really all you need to survive the mana shortage.
I love that you say never stats like its a fact when most professional dota players level stun + stats when they play. Considering you only use brewmaster ult to escape you probably havent played that much and probably shouldnt be so sure of your ideas?
You can level lifesteal for woods which is great. Or you level crit and stun when laning but never stats.
Soul ring is really all you need to survive the mana shortage.
I love that you say never stats like its a fact when most professional dota players level stun + stats when they play. Considering you only use brewmaster ult to escape you probably havent played that much and probably shouldnt be so sure of your ideas?
Was about 5 years ago since I played dota 1 and for dota 2 the hero was released today.
Levling stats on skell king when you can level so many other better skills is a complete waste. Are you sure you are not thinking of some other hero? There are other heroes where levling 2 of your standard skills, your ultimate and then your stats is the best way to go.
You can level lifesteal for woods which is great. Or you level crit and stun when laning but never stats.
Soul ring is really all you need to survive the mana shortage.
I love that you say never stats like its a fact when most professional dota players level stun + stats when they play. Considering you only use brewmaster ult to escape you probably havent played that much and probably shouldnt be so sure of your ideas?
Was about 5 years ago since I played dota 1 and for dota 2 the hero was released today.
Levling stats on skell king when you can level so many other better skills is a complete waste. Are you sure you are not thinking of some other hero? There are other heroes where levling 2 of your standard skills, your ultimate and then your stats is the best way to go.
Common misconception in moba-games: That you're playing with people who have the potential to be pros and being capable of playing like a pro yourself.
So I wrote this guide.
The guide to be good at moba-games:
Rule #1: You suck.
Rule #2: Your team sucks just as much, if not more.
Rule #3: You can't pull off that build, find your own damn build.
Rule #4: Fuck surrendering, everyone throws all day.
Rule #5: Scratch that, 1-30 is impossible to come back form unless they get three DCs. Even then it's going to be a tough fight.
Rule #2: Your team sucks just as much, if not more. -usually true, depends on where you play, they may even be better...
Rule #3: You can't pull off that build, find your own damn build. - the skill is not so much about builds but picks, team synergy, micro, lasthitting, etc = builds aren't hard to pull off (there is nothing to pull off) [strickly talkinga bout dota here]
Rule #4: Fuck surrendering, everyone throws all day. -true
Rule #5: Scratch that, 1-30 is impossible to come back form unless they get three DCs. Even then it's going to be a tough fight. -false, games vary, if you think otherwise you haven't played enough.
Rule #3: You can't pull off that build, find your own damn build. - the skill is not so much about builds but picks, team synergy, micro, lasthitting, etc = builds aren't hard to pull off (there is nothing to pull off) [strickly talkinga bout dota here]
If you're "strictly talking about dota", then you should know that builds are classified by difficulty, as well as viability. Blink dagger ES, for instance, plays differently from RO ES, etc.
You'll also see people aim for ricebuilds where you're supposed to have Butterfly, Shiva's Guard Desco and Radiance by 20 min and end up with half of Butterfly in their inventory a the 20 min mark.
Builds rarely work across great leaps of MMR.
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Rule #5: Scratch that, 1-30 is impossible to come back form unless they get three DCs. Even then it's going to be a tough fight. -false, games vary, if you think otherwise you haven't played enough.
You misread "1-30" as a constant, buddy, it's an example. You kind of did that for all the rules.
I may not be a pro (hell no im not) but I dont agree with that build.
Maybe facing other pros with a team that is not filled with russians then yes, itīs the best build.
But for public match making like I am playing, that is just not going to work.
Why wouldnt it work in pubs? its not a "hard" build to pull off its just 1 spell and then attack shit with your lane partner. Hard to find an easier character to play tbh. Stun is your highest dps/dmg skill until very late when you have tons of items and crit takes over. If you lane with someone like lion/venge/CM you should get a free kill almost every time that stun is up if you are playing the shortlane.
So how is this compared to HoN? I've been playing it for the last couple of weeks, and seems every game the last week I've been getting worse and worse ^^
I think you misunderstood. There is no way to measure how difficult one build is compared to another. There are heroes and there are certain things you are supposed to do with said heroes. Now builds vary - but who are you to say that Blink dagger ES (wtf is that?) is harder(or easier) than a RO es(wtf Is a RO es) Roaming? When you pick ES you are either supposed to roam, or trilane or rarely dual. None of which are HARD to pull off. When it comes to items, yeah roaming Es is supposed to get more wards than the trilaning one. But Core items are all the same (arcane+blink). So is the skill build. Either way there is no way to classify something as a build, you should always first look at the game and make your decisions accordingly.
When it comes to getting items early there is another rule # GET EM AS EARLY AS POSSIBLE W/O STEALING YOUR CARRYS FARM.
If you happen to be carry and you cannot farm, it's not because the build is too difficult for you. THE HERO IS. SO don't get 5 wraith bands and a boots instead on riki. DON'T PICK THE DAMN THING until you are better at lasthitting.
Wtf is MMR? Not used to HoN terms...
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You cannot measure how the game is progressing by checking the score. That's a fact. You may get a hint that somebody is winning, but at the end of the day the team that kills the other teams ancient wins. Not the team who has more kills.
I may not be a pro (hell no im not) but I dont agree with that build.
Maybe facing other pros with a team that is not filled with russians then yes, itīs the best build.
But for public match making like I am playing, that is just not going to work.
Why wouldnt it work in pubs? its not a "hard" build to pull off its just 1 spell and then attack shit with your lane partner. Hard to find an easier character to play tbh. Stun is your highest dps/dmg skill until very late when you have tons of items and crit takes over. If you lane with someone like lion/venge/CM you should get a free kill almost every time that stun is up if you are playing the shortlane.
I think you misunderstood. There is no way to measure how difficult one build is compared to another. There are heroes and there are certain things you are supposed to do with said heroes. Now builds vary - but who are you to say that Blink dagger ES (wtf is that?) is harder(or easier) than a RO es(wtf Is a RO es) Roaming? When you pick ES you are either supposed to roam, or trilane or rarely dual. None of which are HARD to pull off. When it comes to items, yeah roaming Es is supposed to get more wards than the trilaning one. But Core items are all the same (arcane+blink). So is the skill build. Either way there is no way to classify something as a build, you should always first look at the game and make your decisions accordingly.
RO would be Refresher Orb (used to love that build, so much fun), ES would be Earth Shaker. I just figured these were common enough for this thread (I've yet to play a single dota-deviation that didn't use abbreviations, pardons if that caused confusion).
I never said which build is more difficult than the other. I said one plays differently from the other. I'm saying there's no point in telling a new player to "go x and y", because "it's the best build". Which leads me to:
There's no such thing as "core items" in a pub game where everyone's a newbie (not using this as a derogatory term, simply pointing out that there's a lot of people new to the game, ergo 'newbies'). There's no point opening arcane boots and blink dagger if you have no god damn idea when you're supposed to blink in. As a matter of fact, I'd recommend anyone to build up their champion knowledge from the ground and build what they think works, simply because, over time, it will give you a much greater understanding of both the potential of each item you buy and each champion you play.
Sure, there are recommended items and builds that can be smart to strive towards, but that doesn't change the fact that "the ideal" build isn't some sort of unified build for every single person that plays that champion. Quite the contrary, there are plenty of sub-optimal builds that work better for lower rated players, simply because they're easier to utilize to their fullest potential. The fact that you're arguing against this puzzles me greatly.
You also say that there are no builds. That's a silly way of looking at it, imo, as you should always have a gameplan (which includes having a prepared build) going into a game and of course that build should be adaptable, but that's exactly what I was trying to convey, that you shouldn't have a static idea of what to build on each champion. That's just silly
Obviously if you find any of this "too simplistic" or "too dumb" for your own personal use, it's not for you.
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If you happen to be carry and you cannot farm, it's not because the build is too difficult for you. THE HERO IS. SO don't get 5 wraith bands and a boots instead on riki. DON'T PICK THE DAMN THING until you are better at lasthitting.
Nobody said that builds and how successful your farm is has any correlation :S
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Wtf is MMR? Not used to HoN terms...
HoN terms? I don't play HoN... :S Match making rating is just a commonly used term to describe, um, your match making rating. I mean, come on, that one's used in every single game that has a matchmaking system >.<
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You cannot measure how the game is progressing by checking the score. That's a fact. You may get a hint that somebody is winning, but at the end of the day the team that kills the other teams ancient wins. Not the team who has more kills.
It does, in certain situations, which was the entire point of that "rule".
If, simply put, the gold disparity (including items and abilities) between the two teams is so great that luck (not positioning, not catching someone due to lack of ward coverage, but actual luck) is the only factor that can grant you a win, it's time to surrender. I'm not saying this is measurable to an exact number, but I am saying that you can kind of tell in certain situations. And that's when you should surrender.
Also, I'd appreciate a less hostile tone, thank you.
... I have, lots of times? Works just fine. There is absolutely nothing about the build that suggest it would work worse against/vs bad players. My problem isnt that you personally find a different build to be more effective for you thats fine, its that you state that its not viable and should never be picked up when its the cookie cutter build that most people use on the character and widely accepted as the most successful way to build him. You get stats because it compensates for his early games weaknesses giving him stronger early game potential.
I can accept that some builds dont work if you are a newbie and playing with other newbies but going for stats + stun on SK does not require you to be a better player then going for crit or lifesteal, it just makes you more effective.
Had a great game today with some pub garbage player playing tide.
His ult plus my ult as SK would rape any hero(s) on their team. Instead he decides that we have lost and fucks off to the woods and farms creeps not using his ulti other than to escape.
Had I been sitting next to him IRL I probably would have plucked a tooth or two out of his fat head.
Players like that piss me off. OK, some feed, some are Russians but the worst are the people who give up before the game has even started. Complete garbage people..
I had the game 5 min ago.. hence the rage.
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