Protests in The ME and Africa

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#1507621 by bolg (Power User) at 2012-11-20 20:47:16 (8 months ago) - [Quote] - [Report]

Don't see why anyone should support either side. Israel is a state funded and run by terrorists and fundamentalists, the same goes for Palestine.

#1507694 by warduke Donor

(Power User) at 2012-11-21 02:47:37 (8 months ago) - [Quote] - [Report]

Gaza annex to Egypt. Problem solved.

#1507697 by qbert95 (Power User) at 2012-11-21 02:49:39 (8 months ago) - [Quote] - [Report]

warduke wrote:

Gaza annex to Egypt. Problem solved.

you think Egypt wants that added headache? Better to throw stones from the outside looking in.

#1507698 by warduke Donor

(Power User) at 2012-11-21 02:53:24 (8 months ago) - [Quote] - [Report]

hahaha. Surely it would be easier for Egypt to handle Gaza though. Worse case, all out war over this every three year crap that keeps going.

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#1507721 by mrunne (Power User) at 2012-11-21 08:38:05 (8 months ago) - [Quote] - [Report]

130 dead palestinians and 5 dead israelis, I wonder how many of the palestinians were women and children? But sure, lets blame it all on Palestine. Israel is as much a terrorist state as Palestine.

#1507725 by VeryBadGuy Donor

(Mad Ultra Mod) at 2012-11-21 08:58:16 (8 months ago) - [Quote] - [Report]

sniperfin wrote:

Hamas is 100% clear terrorist organization and the west should not negotiate with them at all, instead we should let the israelis take care of them, they know how to deal with terrorists.
Any organization which brainwashes kids and recruits kids to fight their wars is a terrorist organization, period.

I won't argue the methods of Hamas as they are repugnant and the very definition of terrorism.

But I will argue their cause. I seriously challenge anybody here to tell me that they would quietly let the UN come in and remove generations of your family from you lands put them in a slum/refugee camp and then tell them that they can never return.

Imagine the UN decides that the poor Native Americans who were lied to and killed by the US government deserved a homeland. Imagine they decided to give back North Dakota to the Souix, NY to the Huron, Miami to the Seminoles etc. The same religous nutjob Americans who argue for the existance of Isreal would be the first ones up in arms in a guerilla war to take back "their" land.

#1507727 by sniperfin (Camo admin) at 2012-11-21 09:11:11 (8 months ago) - [Quote] - [Report]

Yeah, but as long as there is an organization like hamas making decisions, the situation will not change. It's not like there has not been any attemptions trying to solve this issue.

Also, it's true that the support of US religious nutjobs who see israel as their platform of forfilling the prophecies of revelations is not helping on solving this issue.
Same goes for the muslims who see this as a religious tool to drive their goals.

Today it's a political/religious theatre where the issue should be about the ordinary palestinian people, but who actually only are expendable pawns in this game.

#1507757 by mbodnar (Airborne Mod) at 2012-11-21 12:48:52 (8 months ago) - [Quote] - [Report]

You overstate the role of religion, the US support is more about money. The jewish lobby in washingtin is strong, and well funded.

#1507760 by VeryBadGuy Donor

(Mad Ultra Mod) at 2012-11-21 13:12:08 (8 months ago) - [Quote] - [Report]

mbodnar wrote:

You overstate the role of religion, the US support is more about money. The jewish lobby in washingtin is strong, and well funded.

Again Mbodnar you are from the NE..in the south conservatives happily spout their religious drivel in support for Isreal despite the facts that they actively spy on us, steal the technology we refuse to sell them then they turn around and sell it to the Chinese etc.

#1507910 by beblebox (Power User) at 2012-11-22 07:44:39 (8 months ago) - [Quote] - [Report]

Regarding this cease-fire agreement I think that the small opening up of imports to give the Palestinians food is the best thing. From being completely blocked and the arresting of Swedish aid workers by the Israeli government finally the suffering civilians now might be able to go to bed with a little bit of food in their tummy.

It is a good thing in the sense that it will be harder to smuggle in weapons when the food and blankets wont need to take the same journey as well.

Picture of peace agreement:
http://i.imgur.com/hlSb9.jpg

Not the longest official document I've read.

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#1508075 by qbert95 (Power User) at 2012-11-23 04:45:33 (8 months ago) - [Quote] - [Report]

who would have seen this coming....

Egyptian fury over Mursi 'coup'

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They have described his move as a "coup against legitimacy" and accused the president of appointing himself Egypt's "new pharaoh".

The decree states that the president's decisions cannot be revoked by any authority, including the judiciary.

His supporters say the move is designed to protect Egypt's revolution.

welcome to the new Egypt same as the old only with more Allah

#1508240 by beblebox (Power User) at 2012-11-23 23:04:25 (8 months ago) - [Quote] - [Report]

http://www.vice.com/magazine/19/11

Vice just ran "The Syria issue".

#1508304 by Timex (Power User) at 2012-11-24 15:32:09 (8 months ago) - [Quote] - [Report]

qbert95 wrote:

warduke wrote:

Gaza annex to Egypt. Problem solved.

you think Egypt wants that added headache? Better to throw stones from the outside looking in.

Egypt had military rule and control of Gaza from 1948-1967.

#1508472 by alupigus (Lumberjack) at 2012-11-25 17:28:24 (8 months ago) - [Quote] - [Report]

Pat Condell latest video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNNhG0zD … ure=g-high

#1510343 by kristoficus Donor

(The crust on a pizza) at 2012-12-06 00:56:40 (7 months ago) - [Quote] - [Report]

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#1510349 by Timex (Power User) at 2012-12-06 01:11:56 (7 months ago) - [Quote] - [Report]

Syria loads chemical weapons into bombs; military awaits Assad's order

http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012 … &pos=1

#1510356 by Melrose86 (User) at 2012-12-06 01:41:34 (7 months ago) - [Quote] - [Report]

not one quote from anyone saying that they were doing it, that article is as good as something from The Sun

#1510357 by qbert95 (Power User) at 2012-12-06 01:49:08 (7 months ago) - [Quote] - [Report]

Melrose86 wrote:

not one quote from anyone saying that they were doing it, that article is as good as something from The Sun

Yeah that was what I was going to post as a commentary to the article; it is basically "weapons of mass destruction part 2: Invasion of Syria". By hook or crook we are going to intervene in Syria and Im just worried with King Obama in charge he will be given carte blanche by the media to claim whatever while they cheer him along.

#1510359 by Timex (Power User) at 2012-12-06 02:04:16 (7 months ago) - [Quote] - [Report]

Well it was from NBC who owns MSNBC.

The Sun?
Everyone who wants the facts goto Onion!

#1513138 by DXD Donor

(Die-hard Staff) at 2012-12-24 19:26:53 (7 months ago) - [Quote] - [Report]

Timex requested this thread is re-opened.

#1513144 by Timex (Power User) at 2012-12-24 20:34:17 (7 months ago) - [Quote] - [Report]

1 hour ago...

Several die after Assad's forces use 'poisonous gases'

http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012 … &pos=2

#1518696 by VeryBadGuy Donor

(Mad Ultra Mod) at 2013-01-30 17:38:27 (5 months ago) - [Quote] - [Report]

Timex requested this thread is re-opened.

#1518699 by Timex (Power User) at 2013-01-30 17:42:26 (5 months ago) - [Quote] - [Report]

Egypt could 'collapse,' army chief warns as violence continues

http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013 … -continues

#1518709 by beblebox (Power User) at 2013-01-30 18:06:22 (5 months ago) - [Quote] - [Report]

The irony is that anarchists are making a revolution against the Muslim brotherhood and the army says that it is better if they take the power and that is the only thing reported in western media. Army might be better that the current government but it is not the best way to solve this issue. What Egypt needs is much progress and fast.

The brotherhood has managed to destroy Egypt's tourist industry which was their biggest income.

#1518735 by Timex (Power User) at 2013-01-30 21:59:28 (5 months ago) - [Quote] - [Report]

2012 was bad for a lot of people.

This is 2013 and even more destruction and suffering is on the way to even more people it seems.

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