If you bought a PS3 when it launched for €600 you can play Skyrim today with decent fps.
If you bought a 8800GTX around the same time for €800 you can't play Skyrim with decent fps.
So in other words you can't really build a PC that can run games equal or as good as a console for the same amount of money. But if you spend a lot of money on a PC and keep upgrading it you will always be a few steps ahead of consoles when it comes down to graphics.
I have both a PS3 and a high end PC so I can enjoy all the games I want.
They've really got to make a big jump with graphics otherwise I won't be too impressed. I'm sure they will have new featured from the start like augmented reality and motion sensing etc but to be honest I like a lovely looking game too.
Crysis on the PC is probably the best game I've ever seen I don't think anything has come close to that and hasn't in my opinion so far.
#1519252 by unknown[512599] at 2013-02-03 15:43:10 (5 months ago) - [Quote] - [Report]
Belnick wrote:
sauriel wrote:
it's 1.6ghz x 8
and and my ancient server that is standing on a chair here, not being used is
2.8ghz x 4
2.8ghz x 4
24k ram
so yes i think that is little better
they could have used 2,9ghz, like Intel Xeon E5-2690 Octacore 2,9GHz
they are gonna mass produce so it will be cheaper and it will last longer, but ofc that would hinder the development of the playstation 5
Dave7t3 wrote:
You could buy/build a pc that could outperform the ps3 when it was released for the price it cost?
Where is this magical store that sold parts for much less than everywhere else?
And there is a big difference from upgrading a PC and building one from scratch.
A bluray rom on its own was a substantial chunk of the cost of a PS3 not to mention, cpu, gpu, motherboard, case, psu etc etc etc
Its not even about numbers anyway, its about what they can produce on screen and no pc could be built from scratch that looked better than the PS3 or Xbox 360 for that matter when they were released.
that store is called the i n t e r n e t
for 1600 euro I would spank that ps3 yes
Dont take me for a prick, your wrong, simple as that numb nut.
You don't even know how much the ps3 cost at launch so lets just face the reality, your talking shit and clearly have no idea.
Even whole sale you would struggle badly you muppet
I have probably priced and built hundreds of pc`s and have been doing so all through the ps3 life cycle, you are in cloud cuckoo land.
no here it was 1600 euro, after a few months it went down, after a year it was around 600
could be it was the first 1000 sold or something or preordered
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If you bought a PS3 when it launched for €600 you can play Skyrim today with decent fps.
If you bought a 8800GTX around the same time for €800 you can't play Skyrim with decent fps.
whut?
i remember having 2900XT at around that time, i think it is even working in my computer in the closet
no here it was 1600 euro, after a few months it went down, after a year it was around 600
could be it was the first 1000 sold or something or preordered
The Playstation 3 didn't cost more than ~600 euro (6000 SEK) at launch in sweden.
For fucks sake why do all these topics have to end up console vs pc?
And all this tit for tat spec bullshit means nothing.
Its not all about raw power, its how its used ect.
Look at it this way
Whats fastest round the track, a 1.8 litre lotus exige or a large american v8?
In most cases the lotus would run rings around it, yet its a fraction of the engine size.
PC's will always be more powerfull, however that power comes at a cost.
So please spare us all this shit about pc vs consoles.
No wonder i rearly post in this forum.
#1519475 by unknown[512599] at 2013-02-04 16:53:14 (5 months ago) - [Quote] - [Report]
Totally agree and I'm only really posting because I am calling Bellendnick out on his bullshit.
I swear this guy just makes shit up out of thin air and expects people to just believe it
no here it was 1600 euro, after a few months it went down, after a year it was around 600
could be it was the first 1000 sold or something or preordered
Quote:
If you bought a PS3 when it launched for €600 you can play Skyrim today with decent fps.
If you bought a 8800GTX around the same time for €800 you can't play Skyrim with decent fps.
whut?
i remember having 2900XT at around that time, i think it is even working in my computer in the closet
they also dumb down everything on console so they can run it
You do realize that guy is playing with very low fps in the video.
I run Skyrim pretty good with almost constant 60 fps with mods on a tripple screen setup.
On a PS3 or Xbox the game looks like dog shit but it runs really good. The guy in the video can run the game but it looks horrible even if his resolution is high and it has pretty low fps, and you did not get to watch any heavy fighting with lots of particles flying around. Pretty sure his computer would commit suicide at that point.
#1519480 by unknown[512599] at 2013-02-04 17:07:55 (5 months ago) - [Quote] - [Report]
Mine cost £599 I think it was with one game lol
I know for a solid fact a PC could not be made that could match the PS3`s visuals for what I paid for mine at least.
But yeah, if the shop had charged me the Bellendnick rates perhaps I could have
I'm always afraid to enter this thread in regards to what kind of curious arguments I'm going to hear next.
First the Blu-Ray thing and someone declaring Physical Media dead and people using it stupid.
Then the 1600€ PlayStation 3 and someone trying to compare a gaming console to server hardware.
In regards to building a new PC similar to "new" console hardware, it's very much possible, although one has to understand that they subsidize the console hardware somewhat and often even sell them at a loss close to the Release Date, since they get the money back with software sales and their ~15-20% Licensing fees for them using "their platform".
Here's a good price-comparison for building a PC in increments: http://www.tinyurl.com/falconguidelite The new consoles sound like they are situated somewhere between the "Good" and the "Great" build from what is known so far.
Skyrim also isn't a very good example, since the game is running below the lowest possible PC settings @720p on consoles and the game was basically broken on the PlayStation 3 after a certain point because of the lack of RAM/Memory: http://gamasutra.com/blogs/GlenJoyner/2 … amined.php
dont think we should be arguing over which is best, the next gen consoles can only be a good thing for the pc.
#1519566 by unknown[512599] at 2013-02-05 13:06:33 (5 months ago) - [Quote] - [Report]
Dexter wrote:
Here's a good price-comparison for building a PC in increments: http://www.tinyurl.com/falconguidelite The new consoles sound like they are situated somewhere between the "Good" and the "Great" build from what is known so far.
That doesn't factor in essential peripheral costs or the cost of an operating system.
We can only speculate with the new console vs pc in terms of value but last time around the xbox was insanely good value for money and even the launch price of the ps3 was good value.
I am sure it will be similar next time.
As we know though, or at least some of us do. What shows up on the screen is all that matters, how it looks is secondary for me but I'm certain were going to be largely happy with the updated visuals on the new consoles and as long as the gameplay stacks up I'm happy.
Microsoft’s next console will require an Internet connection in order to function, ruling out a second-hand game market for the platform. A new iteration of Xbox Live will be an integral part of Microsoft’s next console, while improved Kinect hardware will also ship alongside the unit.
Sources with first-hand experience of Microsoft’s next generation console have told us that although the next Xbox will be absolutely committed to online functionality, games will still be made available to purchase in physical form. Next Xbox games will be manufactured on 50GB-capacity Blu-ray discs, Microsoft having conceded defeat to Sony following its ill-fated backing of the HD-DVD format. It is believed that games purchased on disc will ship with activation codes, and will have no value beyond the initial user.
Our source has also confirmed that the next Xbox’s recently rumoured specs are entirely accurate. That means an AMD eight-core x64 1.6GHz CPU, a D3D11.x 800MHz graphics solution and 8GB of DDR3 RAM. As of now, the console’s hard drive capacity is said to be undecided, but Microsoft’s extended commitment to online delivery suggests that it will be the largest unit it has put inside a console to date.
Though the architectures of the next-gen Xbox and PlayStation both resemble that of PCs, several development sources have told us that Sony’s solution is preferable when it comes to leveraging power. Studios working with the next-gen Xbox are currently being forced to work with only approved development libraries, while Sony is encouraging coders to get closer to the metal of its box. Furthermore, the operating system overhead of Microsoft’s next console is more oppressive than Sony’s equivalent, giving the PlayStation-badged unit another advantage.
Unlike Nintendo, Microsoft is continuing to invest heavily in motion-control interfaces, and a new, more reliably responsive Kinect will also ship alongside the next Xbox. Sony’s next-generation console camera system is said to have a similar set of features, and is expected to be discussed at the company’s PlayStation event on February 20.
As I came from the generation of burning cd-rs and sharing it among everyone I knew, this seems a real shame that Xbox won't even allow second hand originals.
All of these new restrictions actually seems to be putting people off buying rather than inciting them.
I was afraid that they gonna use blue-ray just to attract buyers (useless for me and it's adding up to the price). At least we can download the games directly that's something.
Let's see how the "hacking" part will go with all this security measures, probably xbox live is out of the question due to cd keys, but a new console only for single player gaming it doesn't sound too attractive
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