#143484 by unknown[64964] at 2005-04-04 11:22:24 (8 years ago) - [Report]
"It costs too much, I'm poor."
I would love beeing able to afford to buy my stuff. And if more of the money actually would go to those who work hard with movies and games instead of going to overpayed "stars" who already got a sh*tload of money and big companys pushing out pre chewed crap just to leech folks of money it would even feel right to pay. (phew, long sentence there )
Btw, the only way to see a good movie is at the cinema.
Edit:
If a DVD or a CD would cost like 4 or 5€ I would buy way more than I do today (shouldn't cost more). There is a certain nice feeling in having a retail in the shelf instead of a DVD+R laying in the spindle with the name of the movie hand written with a black marker pen (yes I know you can do it really nicely with printers and covers and stuff but how many does that).
Edit 2:
If they (the companys) really go out on a limb, making it difficult for users just to prevent copying (for example Starforce and running soft from HD) I D/L their stuff just in spite
#143839 by negge2 (Power User) at 2005-04-04 22:05:44 (8 years ago) - [Report]
ofcourse its because it costs too much and im actually pretty "poor"
. i only buy music from bands that are on independent labels and that are really hard to find on the internet, like 7" and stuff. and independent labels music are even cheaper and money actually goes to those who has earned it and not some rich f*cking CEO at EMI or something....
I am not starting an argument or anything..but I just find it slightly funny when UserA refuses to pay $25 dollars for a video game (it't too expensive etc)..but UserA has no problems paying $250 dollars to buy new video card to play an illegally downloaded game. I agree things are overpriced but to say $17 is too much for a cd while half of the people on here probably spend that much or more at Mcdonalds every week is just silly.
Be honest about it...it isn't that it is too expensive..it's the idea of why pay for something when you can get it for free.
Stealing it is more fun. Gives you the same excited feeling that you got snooping in mommies dresser drawers.
#144973 by unknown[64964] at 2005-04-05 20:31:32 (8 years ago) - [Report]
VeryBadGUy wrote:
I just find it slightly funny when UserA refuses to pay $25 dollars for a video game.. ..but UserA has no problems paying $250 dollars to buy new video card...
Point well made. However I dont think videocards is so overpriced as most of the stuff on the media market are. Computer components (most of them anyway) have a whole range of manufacturers so pricing will be under competition pushing the prices (thank god for that...). A music CD release originates from one (1) source who can set a price out of competition since the artist almost always is under contract. The only competition possible is that between retailers and they have not the best of margins to make their living on. The same applies to videogames and movies. Applications are somewhat different since there you are buying a function that can be fullfilled by a similar program. If you want to play Call of Duty you can hardly buy Battlefield.
Btw, i still have a GF2MX400 because I dont have the cash to spend of my puter (will have soon thou). Playing CoD:UO on that and it actually isn't that bad (or at least I have to convince myself that).
Edit:
And a new videocard lasts waaayyyy longer than a game.
maybe the guy took his card to the counter and didnt realise it sed $250, he thought it sed $25, then when they took it outa his account via credit card...he had no money left for games ...poor chap
i chose , the im too poor option!!!
#145082 by unknown[39869] at 2005-04-05 21:40:57 (8 years ago) - [Report]
The truth is noone whould buy the same amouth they download... people still buy some stuff and if there wasnt piracy they whould buy the same the difference is that they whould whatch more times / play more hours/ whatch more tv .....
#145256 by unknown[5260] at 2005-04-05 23:30:48 (8 years ago) - [Report]
the part of world i am from we have no luxary of going out and BUYING a game ... so to us the only way out is to "buy" pirated games ( freely available in market ) or download them .. i used to spend a lot of money buying the pirated games but have stopped now
I did bought hl2 and couple of other games due to currency rates say a 50 $ game means like more than half of what i earn per month
P.S in case few of you wonder i am from Pakistan
#145468 by unknown[58263] at 2005-04-06 02:45:12 (8 years ago) - [Report]
dumdum wrote:
the part of world i am from we have no luxary of going out and BUYING a game ... so to us the only way out is to "buy" pirated games ( freely available in market ) or download them .. i used to spend a lot of money buying the pirated games but have stopped now
I did bought hl2 and couple of other games due to currency rates say a 50 $ game means like more than half of what i earn per month
P.S in case few of you wonder i am from Pakistan
Don't buy games! You actually have a valid excuse. Keep up the good work.
the part of world i am from we have no luxary of going out and BUYING a game ... so to us the only way out is to "buy" pirated games ( freely available in market ) or download them .. i used to spend a lot of money buying the pirated games but have stopped now
I did bought hl2 and couple of other games due to currency rates say a 50 $ game means like more than half of what i earn per month
P.S in case few of you wonder i am from Pakistan
I don't have the luxary of going out and buying a new mercedes either but that doesn't mean I have a valid excuse to run down the dealer and nick it from the showroom. Now if someone just left it on the street with the keys in it..now that is a different story isn't it? That is what the internet is like at the moment....someone just left the car there for you running and all you got to do is sit down and drive away or in our cases sit down and click away.
The major obstical is the sheer availability and ease of downloading product over the net. Nobody in their right mind is going to go out and pay good money for something that they can download almost anonymously over the net. Blame the napster generation as well..how many of us downloaded programs and music via the net before napster? How many kids can use kazza or some other p2p and yet they are still baffled by IRC?
#146434 by unknown[41205] at 2005-04-06 22:45:26 (8 years ago) - [Report]
I see posts where some people claim it is not that expensive of you compare it with, for example, hardware for the computer...and I agree at one point but I also believe it isn´t fair to compare those things. It is the amount of joy you get for a special amount of money.
We are not willing to pay 20$ for a CD or (at least) 25$ for a dvd because it doesn´t give that much joy as other things you can buy for that amount of money.
You can buy 4 dvd´s, or you can visit the biggest and most popular themepark in scandinavia a whole season as much as you like. You can buy dvdplayers that cost less money than 2 dvd´s. You can buy at least 4 really good books (yes I read) for the same price as a cd.
thats why we download.
#146455 by unknown[70153] at 2005-04-06 23:09:54 (8 years ago) - [Report]
I buy everything I download, unless I really hate whatever it is that I got. Leaks are like demos, only better. Instead of having a free sample, you have the whole thing.
I refuse to buy cds. When the price of the average cd went to $20 us I stopped buying them. Most of that money goes to the producers. Did you know that out of the $20 only $2 goes to the artist. The actual cost per cd is like less than $1. So that means $17 goes to the producers. They're greedy mother fuckers and I refuse to pay for their new jet or whatever the new "it" toy is.
As for movies if it's a REALLY good movie then I'll pay retail. Such as the LOTR movie. I even bought the Platnum special editions with the cool statues. Those guys were $60 a piece but they were worth it since I was getting so much.
I will also buy them if they are on sale. IE: I won't go over $10 for a seminew movie. If it's an old one I won't pay more than $6. Yes they do have older dvds for $6 american. Sometimes less if they are REALLY old.
As for games I refuse to pay $50 for a game, new or old. The max I'll pay is $20 if it's a good game. I also refuse to spend money to buy a game where I then have to pay a monthly fee to play it. No matter how much I would like to. Either give me the game for free and charge me maybe $5 a month or charge me for the game and give me the server to play on it for free. Don't do both because then I just feel cheated.
I work very hard for the little money I do have and I refuse to spend it to make ritch people ritcher.
#147635 by unknown[3818] at 2005-04-08 01:31:26 (8 years ago) - [Report]
i only buy games i know is good, and games that have a massive MP support
i keep thinking about those who bought Unreal 2, what a rip-off
you play for like... 30 minutes and then your done, no multiplayer, no nothing...
and dont even buy CDs anymore, i just dont see the point
i do buy DVDs though, and alot of them
#149669 by unknown[3506] at 2005-04-09 16:14:18 (8 years ago) - [Report]
actually most offline games arent even worth buying. you download them, you complete them in like what 3 hours, then delete. imagine buying that, completing it in 3 hours then trying to trade it in for a 1/5 of what you bought it for.
i ALWAYS buy online games, a lot of them subscription ones, but only because i can play it and 3 months down the line, still be playing it.
i'm not really bothered who agrees/disagrees, but thats how i go by it.
edit ~ i voted blank, i like to download but at the same time i still buy some of them. im not poor, i have job, so didnt choose anything.
edit 2 ~
VeryBadGUy wrote:
Blame the napster generation as well..how many of us downloaded programs and music via the net before napster? How many kids can use kazza or some other p2p and yet they are still baffled by IRC?
thats so true.
i must admit i was a heavy irc user, but after the napster storm, from the wreckage spawned a whole new way, and easier at that, of downloading, and has spread as far and as vast as where we're typing right now.
and yet, as easy as it comes, most of them dont know what to do with such tiny things as bins, cues, iso's and rars.
#152272 by unknown[70994] at 2005-04-11 10:58:48 (8 years ago) - [Report]
It costs too much TBH.
Why should I buy all that stuff, while I can get it for free ..
#152588 by unknown[71974] at 2005-04-11 19:44:39 (8 years ago) - [Report]
Cost too much.
You need to buy new hardware almost every month, to make the new games work.
And for extra fun and joy, you need to buy those games in over priced price.
No thanks. Will get my games for free (Too bad you can't download hardware )
#152688 by unknown[32768] at 2005-04-11 21:09:51 (8 years ago) - [Report]
chefren wrote:
"It costs too much, I'm poor."
I would love beeing able to afford to buy my stuff. And if more of the money actually would go to those who work hard with movies and games instead of going to overpayed "stars" who already got a sh*tload of money and big companys pushing out pre chewed crap just to leech folks of money it would even feel right to pay. (phew, long sentence there )
Btw, the only way to see a good movie is at the cinema.
Edit:
If a DVD or a CD would cost like 4 or 5€ I would buy way more than I do today (shouldn't cost more). There is a certain nice feeling in having a retail in the shelf instead of a DVD+R laying in the spindle with the name of the movie hand written with a black marker pen (yes I know you can do it really nicely with printers and covers and stuff but how many does that).
Edit 2:
If they (the companys) really go out on a limb, making it difficult for users just to prevent copying (for example Starforce and running soft from HD) I D/L their stuff just in spite
Agree 100%. Simply, most people cant afford all the music they download. I buy the really good ones, be it a movie that i got a really satisfaction from watching, or a CD.
And I dont got any regret from downloading stuff - Its a known fact most artists doesnt get any profit at all from selling records. Corporate culture, go go go.
VeryBadGUy wrote:
dumdum wrote:
the part of world i am from we have no luxary of going out and BUYING a game ... so to us the only way out is to "buy" pirated games ( freely available in market ) or download them .. i used to spend a lot of money buying the pirated games but have stopped now
I did bought hl2 and couple of other games due to currency rates say a 50 $ game means like more than half of what i earn per month
P.S in case few of you wonder i am from Pakistan
I don't have the luxary of going out and buying a new mercedes either but that doesn't mean I have a valid excuse to run down the dealer and nick it from the showroom. Now if someone just left it on the street with the keys in it..now that is a different story isn't it? That is what the internet is like at the moment....someone just left the car there for you running and all you got to do is sit down and drive away or in our cases sit down and click away.
The major obstical is the sheer availability and ease of downloading product over the net. Nobody in their right mind is going to go out and pay good money for something that they can download almost anonymously over the net. Blame the napster generation as well..how many of us downloaded programs and music via the net before napster? How many kids can use kazza or some other p2p and yet they are still baffled by IRC?
I wouldnt buy most of the music i got in my winamp playlist (9869 atm), and I would neither have heard of them. For me, piracy is a great oportunity to find out about other cultures, and get new influences. On mtv and the tv all i see is Britney Spears and her titties, how is that for culture influence.
Music cost too much for the common man and woman. And even if it costed less, I would refuse to buy it unless I was 100% sure that the artist got what he/she/they deserved. Its not like that at the moment, and hopefully piracy will force the big record companies and what ever to have to change their policies.
Who the fuck can afford to buy 100 cds a month?. For me, I can afford about 2 cds a month. And no, its not about prioritizing, thats how it is.
Music is bloody culture, its not about the money. The people behind this culture doesnt get what they deserve, neither do we as consumers. The ones that get what WE deserve, yes, thats the people that takes the money.
I realize that there are alot that are download stuff and dont buy it because they can. And they might be the majority, or the minority, of us. But that does change the fact that the people in between us and the artists, that receives our money, need to get a kick in the arse.
VeryBadGUy wrote:
I am not starting an argument or anything..but I just find it slightly funny when UserA refuses to pay $25 dollars for a video game (it't too expensive etc)..but UserA has no problems paying $250 dollars to buy new video card to play an illegally downloaded game. I agree things are overpriced but to say $17 is too much for a cd while half of the people on here probably spend that much or more at Mcdonalds every week is just silly.
Be honest about it...it isn't that it is too expensive..it's the idea of why pay for something when you can get it for free.
I dont go to McDonalds, neither do most of the people i know. Anyway. You dont buy a graphic card each month, do you? Each week? Normal people like me have to save up for a long time really to buy stuff like that.
So what your saying is that we gotta save up each time we want to buy cds? That wouldnt work, Im a music-lover, and for me its SIMPLY IMPOSSIBLE to buy all the music I want - For that the cds cost too much , and as I said above : Its against my morals.
Aight, wrote in a hurry, and I got other shit to do now. Cya.
#152960 by unknown[26] at 2005-04-12 01:29:42 (8 years ago) - [Report]
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