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#1378181 by demagh (User) at 2011-02-15 19:16:05 (2 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report]Top

dodeliatcha wrote:

any update from egypt? how is the outlook for jobs for the egyptians

strikes everywhere, asking for better salaries, retarded promotions and bonuses being approved and finally what we call "tathbeet" meaning being secured into your position to end needless internships which weakens the employees position to claim their rights.

Some had their requests fulfilled ASAP, some are still negotiating and others had no response or whatsoever from their upper management

Persecutions of many members of the last regime is being processed right now and many cases are being opened dialy, the numbers in billions are starting to appear, wish we had all fish surrounded so no one can escape.

Many personal movements cleaning the streets, fixing pavements managing work requests are on the move, wish this spirit lasts for a while.

@hmhef
well it is no more useful to discuss this, but i agree with what you said, HE wasn't bad BUT he had no control over the country/ministers/whatever as well .. so .. why president still?!

VBG's point is not that improbable i agree, but we got to have some faith, we can't take any matters again into our own hands anymore, we NEED to work, produce .. fast.

Oh, and i disagree calling the muslim brother hood and illegal move, they weren't, there was nothing in the LAW / Constitution that ever made such claims, they were just not a political party "7izb" by law, which is currently changing btw.

Last edited by demagh at 2011-02-15 19:26:08

#1378204 by dodeliatcha (User) at 2011-02-15 20:30:59 (2 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report]Top

demagh wrote:

dodeliatcha wrote:

any update from egypt? how is the outlook for jobs for the egyptians

strikes everywhere, asking for better salaries, retarded promotions and bonuses being approved and finally what we call "tathbeet" meaning being secured into your position to end needless internships which weakens the employees position to claim their rights.

Some had their requests fulfilled ASAP, some are still negotiating and others had no response or whatsoever from their upper management

Persecutions of many members of the last regime is being processed right now and many cases are being opened dialy, the numbers in billions are starting to appear, wish we had all fish surrounded so no one can escape.

Many personal movements cleaning the streets, fixing pavements managing work requests are on the move, wish this spirit lasts for a while.

@hmhef
well it is no more useful to discuss this, but i agree with what you said, HE wasn't bad BUT he had no control over the country/ministers/whatever as well .. so .. why president still?!

VBG's point is not that improbable i agree, but we got to have some faith, we can't take any matters again into our own hands anymore, we NEED to work, produce .. fast.

Oh, and i disagree calling the muslim brother hood and illegal move, they weren't, there was nothing in the LAW / Constitution that ever made such claims, they were just not a political party "7izb" by law, which is currently changing btw.

aha ok..hope it works out for ya'll.

btw do you feel free now?

#1378291 by demagh (User) at 2011-02-15 23:49:05 (2 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report]Top

yeah very, getting poorer by the minute "as family business is greatly being affected by the current situations" but hell, poor and free is something else .. i tell ya.

Last edited by demagh at 2011-02-15 23:49:14

#1378323 by Timex (Power User) at 2011-02-16 04:55:27 (2 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report]Top

@ demagh...
All best wishs from my heart to you and yours and everyone involved.
Hope this movement does not fall into a trap from those behind the sceen who pull stings like in our last USA election.

#1378330 by Snuffsis (Power User) at 2011-02-16 06:12:45 (2 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report]Top

Timex wrote:

@ demagh...
All best wishs from my heart to you and yours and everyone involved.
Hope this movement does not fall into a trap from those behind the sceen who pull stings like in our last USA election.

You mean like all recent elections in the US ofcourse?

#1378349 by THEBiZ (User) at 2011-02-16 08:09:34 (2 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report]Top

Timex wrote:

@ demagh...
All best wishs from my heart to you and yours and everyone involved.
Hope this movement does not fall into a trap from those behind the sceen who pull stings like in our last USA election.

Way down upon the Swannee River,
Far, far away,
There’s where my heart is turning ever,
There’s where the old folks stay.
All up and down the whole creation,
Sadly I roam,
Still longing for my childhood station,
And for the old folks at home.

All the world is sad and dreary
Everywhere I roam.
O dear ones, how my heart grows weary,
Far from the old folks at home.

All ‘round the little farm I wander’d,
When I was young;
Then many happy days I squander’d,
Many the songs I sung.
When I was playing with my brother,
Happy was I.
Oh, take me to my kind old mother,
There let me live and die.

One little hut among the bushes,
One that I love.
Still sadly to my memory rushes,
No matter where I rove.
When will I see the bees a humming,
All ‘round the comb?
When shall I hear the banjo strumming,
Down in my good old home.

#1378369 by Sargoth (Power User) at 2011-02-16 10:31:21 (2 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report]Top

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article … z1E4Kpaej8

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'It was a mob of more than 200 people whipped into frenzy. In the crush of the mob, she was separated from her crew.

'She was surrounded and suffered a brutal and sustained sexual assault and beating before being saved by a group of women and an estimated 20 Egyptian soldiers.

'She reconnected with the CBS team, returned to her hotel and returned to the United States on the first flight the next morning. She is currently in the hospital recovering.'

CBS News' Logan recovering after 'brutal' attack
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110215/ap_ … gan_attack

CBS News' Lara Logan assaulted in Egypt
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/showtra … egypt.html

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While reporting from Egypt for a "60 Minutes" story, CBS News correspondant Lara Logan was sexually assaulted and beaten. According to a statement issued by CBS on Tuesday, Logan was attacked on Feb. 11, the day Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak stepped down. She had been covering the rejoicing in Tahrir Square when she and her team were surrounded by a mob of more than 200 people. After being pulled away from her team, Logan "suffered a brutal and sustained sexual assault and beating" before being saved by a group of women and Egyptian soldiers. She flew back to the United States on the first flight the next morning and is now recovering in a hospital.

I'm guessing it is a culture celebration thing.

Anyway what will happen now, the military will run the government until the situation stabilises?

Last edited by Sargoth at 2011-02-16 10:50:49

#1378376 by unknown[76452] at 2011-02-16 11:25:29 (2 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report]Top

When 200 people attack and brutally rape Any person then it just shows the rest of the world that those people are animals.

And lo and behold, we bring those animals to our own countries so they can continue their rape rampage! Here where I live if you read or hear about a rape you instantly know its an immigrant, first, second or even third generation aswell.

When will our government wake up!

#1378378 by VeryBadGuyDonor (Mad Ultra Mod) at 2011-02-16 11:34:15 (2 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report]Top

wait guys, you must be wrong..when I brought up the fact that western women who travel to Egypt and are either unaccompanied or left unaccompanied are treated like whores, groped and talked to in a horrible manner I was assured it was not a cultural thing but the place I was :facepalm:

#1378385 by THEBiZ (User) at 2011-02-16 12:03:31 (2 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report]Top

Was she actually raped, or just "felt"?

#1378388 by VeryBadGuyDonor (Mad Ultra Mod) at 2011-02-16 12:15:03 (2 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report]Top

THEBiZ wrote:

Was she actually raped, or just "felt"?

either one of them is being sexually assaulted...do you really think they "raped" her in a crowd in public?

#1378427 by VizlaNDonor (Power User) at 2011-02-16 15:24:14 (2 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report]Top

VeryBadGuy wrote:


either one of them is being sexually assaulted...do you really think they "raped" her in a crowd in public?

While being beaten by 199 others not to mention. Still it's sick and doesn't exactly send a positive signal out to the world that "so many" reporters are being attacked down there.

#1378441 by THEBiZ (User) at 2011-02-16 16:29:38 (2 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report]Top

VeryBadGuy wrote:

THEBiZ wrote:

Was she actually raped, or just "felt"?

either one of them is being sexually assaulted...do you really think they "raped" her in a crowd in public?

Only asking.

#1378451 by Sargoth (Power User) at 2011-02-16 17:29:08 (2 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report]Top

VizlaN wrote:

VeryBadGuy wrote:


either one of them is being sexually assaulted...do you really think they "raped" her in a crowd in public?

While being beaten by 199 others not to mention. Still it's sick and doesn't exactly send a positive signal out to the world that "so many" reporters are being attacked down there.

Seems 52-53 reporters either got "kidnapped/attacked/assaulted/harassed/knifed/had equipment stolen" I don't know exact details, not necessarily on the same day, but a journalist got killed by a sniper.

#1378502 by slitt3r90 (Power User) at 2011-02-16 20:34:49 (2 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report]Top

VeryBadGuy wrote:

wait guys, you must be wrong..when I brought up the fact that western women who travel to Egypt and are either unaccompanied or left unaccompanied are treated like whores, groped and talked to in a horrible manner I was assured it was not a cultural thing but the place I was :facepalm:

I HATE all the people in Egypt who are ignorant and stupid and make me look bad in front of the world :facepalm:

#1378503 by qbert95 (Power User) at 2011-02-16 20:37:01 (2 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report]Top

Looks like things are starting to heat up in Bahrain now. Unlike in Egypt where the protests were very diverse the protests in Bahrain seem to be mainly the Shia majority protesting against the Sunni controlled government. I suspect the last thing the Arab Sunni's want is another Iranian proxy state popping up next to them so there is real concern the Saudi's will most likely intervene if that were to happen.

#1378617 by Timex (Power User) at 2011-02-17 07:19:56 (2 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report]Top

Like I said it is not for myself to say what another country should do as I have much to deal with inside my own country attempting to return my own government to ONLY the power it has under our Constitution...but I have to say that I suspect/see those in power playing the population with pupets in place much the same as here in the USA with Obama.

Real change can only come from upholding  each owns Constitution and have those we elect do so.
(pain killers and beers...no time to correct any typos.
Sorry.)

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#1378645 by GermsDonor (Paulo DiCanio's Disciple) at 2011-02-17 11:03:05 (2 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report]Top

Looks like Bahrain is following Tunisia and Egypt in demonstrating/rioting against the government.I'm starting to get rather concerned about the way things are heading in the Middle East,it's always been volatile in some areas but these are the "stable" countries that are kicking off and I can't see what this might mean for the region except possibly "not good".

Last edited by Germs at 2011-02-17 11:37:56

#1378830 by Sargoth (Power User) at 2011-02-17 20:36:16 (2 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report]Top

@Germs
Bahraini state enforcers fire rubber bullets at peaceful Shia pro-democracy protestors: Al-Manamah
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=70e_1297900205

Quote:

The Bahraini state enforcer's are now bolstered by criminal Saudi elements, desperate to contain the Shiite led pro-democracy movement.
The brutal pro-American regime acknowledges only 11 deaths of protestors at time of writing

#1378855 by hmhefDonor (VIP) at 2011-02-17 22:10:39 (2 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report]Top

Germs wrote:

Looks like Bahrain is following Tunisia and Egypt in demonstrating/rioting against the government.I'm starting to get rather concerned about the way things are heading in the Middle East,it's always been volatile in some areas but these are the "stable" countries that are kicking off and I can't see what this might mean for the region except possibly "not good".

Inside egypt, still nothing is settled, different groups now are demanding different requests .. , and it doesnt look clear enough where are we headed.


and on other news,
http://edition.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/meast … .warships/

#1378862 by slitt3r90 (Power User) at 2011-02-17 22:20:29 (2 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report]Top

hmhef wrote:

Germs wrote:

Looks like Bahrain is following Tunisia and Egypt in demonstrating/rioting against the government.I'm starting to get rather concerned about the way things are heading in the Middle East,it's always been volatile in some areas but these are the "stable" countries that are kicking off and I can't see what this might mean for the region except possibly "not good".

Inside egypt, still nothing is settled, different groups now are demanding different requests .. , and it doesnt look clear enough where are we headed.


and on other news,
http://edition.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/meast … .warships/

Now what are they going to do..

#1378953 by Sargoth (Power User) at 2011-02-18 07:15:33 (2 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report]Top

Seems tanks have rolled into the streets of Bahrain 3 killed 231 injured.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-12495733
http://edition.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/meast … tml?hpt=T1

#1378974 by VeryBadGuyDonor (Mad Ultra Mod) at 2011-02-18 10:32:15 (2 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report]Top

hmhef wrote:

Germs wrote:

Looks like Bahrain is following Tunisia and Egypt in demonstrating/rioting against the government.I'm starting to get rather concerned about the way things are heading in the Middle East,it's always been volatile in some areas but these are the "stable" countries that are kicking off and I can't see what this might mean for the region except possibly "not good".

Inside egypt, still nothing is settled, different groups now are demanding different requests .. , and it doesnt look clear enough where are we headed.


and on other news,
http://edition.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/meast … .warships/

that is what most people were worried about. Everybody was united and now they are all squabbling for a piece of the spoils and positions within the government. The very reason that the revolution worked is now causing these problems. When they overthrew Mubarek the people were united together. Not behind a particular person or party. And now with the power vaccum there is no clear cut choice to lead Egypt out of this crisis. All those people who were hugging in the streets days ago are now looking for ways to stab each other in the back for power. This is why I seriously think the Military could reconsider giving control back tp the public.

#1379132 by qbert95 (Power User) at 2011-02-18 20:43:40 (2 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report]Top

Egypt is last weeks news; Bahrain is going to be the big one since its  really the first uprising where there is no question of it being a proxy Saudi vs Iran battle. If it starts getting really out of hand the Saudi pretty much already said are going to get involved which leads to the big question of how Iran responds.

#1379624 by dodeliatcha (User) at 2011-02-20 17:31:30 (2 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report]Top

yeah..should we create a new thread? or is this enough for libya,bahrain,yemen and iran? I think we should create a new one..dont know if we are allowed though

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