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#1376952 by demagh (User) at 2011-02-11 15:51:02 (2 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report]Top

THEBiZ wrote:

If those guys are allowed by the ppl to protest on the streets, then too bad for them...
If in the past i was happy about the turmoil we see in Egypt (happy in a sense that ppl are fighting for their right of a better life), seeing these religious brainless fucks mingling amongst the protesters is making me having second thoughts.

who are you talking about?!

#1376955 by Melrose86 (User) at 2011-02-11 16:07:28 (2 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report]Top

He stepped down!

#1376957 by slitt3r90 (Power User) at 2011-02-11 16:11:45 (2 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report]Top

Tears in my eyes, I cant believe it!

#1376958 by hmhefDonor (VIP) at 2011-02-11 16:13:33 (2 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report]Top

glad that the army stepped in for now, and not some any other political force

#1376959 by hOG (Crusader Mod) at 2011-02-11 16:13:43 (2 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report]Top

Question remains I suppose if the military will take over now (permanently).

#1376961 by sniperfin (Camo admin) at 2011-02-11 16:15:02 (2 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report]Top

Congrats egypt, may the future be britght for you !

#1376962 by blackangel7 (User) at 2011-02-11 16:17:16 (2 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report]Top

He is  gone
the murderer is gone
the thief is gone
I cant believe it

He is really gone
god bless  the youth
god bless the internet
god bless the facebook
god bless wael ghoniem
god bless all Egyptians
god bless Egypt

#1376965 by pimpNeasy007Donor (Staff) at 2011-02-11 16:56:10 (2 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report]Top

Congrats Egypt!


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#1376966 by demagh (User) at 2011-02-11 17:04:46 (2 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report]Top

Thanks for all who shared the dream and lived the moment with us, though i can't get what happened from yesterday to today that changed the speech from a long boring non-promising ending with disappointments one to a short efficient happy news for all ?! Was it the last trial to perform a bitch slap to all the protesters, world leaders and analytics all over the world?!

now we must all hurry, supporters, protesters trying to save what can be saved and hook onto the new regime ASAP it is constructed the way we always wanted .. democratic, representing the REAL street opinion

Wish us luck guys, will catch up with you politically, technologically and economically within 10~15 years i guess

#1376971 by mselo4ever4 (User) at 2011-02-11 17:21:44 (2 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report]Top

:happy2: :happy2::happy2::happy2::happy2::happy2::happy2:

yessssssss! finally!

congrats to all Egyptians

#1376974 by Timex (Power User) at 2011-02-11 17:45:28 (2 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report]Top

Now the real challange starts.

#1376975 by Agent204Donor (Loud Mr.Miagi) at 2011-02-11 17:48:45 (2 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report]Top

Timex wrote:

Now the real challange starts.

Indeed.

But good luck, guys and gals!

#1376979 by Alibaba86 (Power User) at 2011-02-11 17:54:18 (2 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report]Top

Now you should start to protest about the internet caps:-P


But good luck people;-)

#1376982 by qbert95 (Power User) at 2011-02-11 18:07:08 (2 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report]Top

Hopefully the international community helps out by freezing and seizing all of Mubarak's assets he swindled and hid around the world and transfers them back to the next Egyptian government.

#1376983 by VeryBadGuyDonor (Mad Ultra Mod) at 2011-02-11 18:12:18 (2 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report]Top

Be careful what you wish for..

I don't see any guarentee of reform or free elections under the Military.
They remember exactly who it was tho assasinated Sadat and as Mubarek was one of their own had their hands forced by his unpopularity rather than some sort of loyalty to the people. If they had been loyal to the people it wouldn't have taken them 30 years to take over would it?

#1376984 by I (Power User) at 2011-02-11 18:12:43 (2 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report]Top

We won
That's it
Thanks to anyone made this dream possible

#1376985 by sniperfin (Camo admin) at 2011-02-11 18:16:00 (2 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report]Top

qbert95 wrote:

Hopefully the international community helps out by freezing and seizing all of Mubarak's assets he swindled and hid around the world and transfers them back to the next Egyptian government.

Switzerland has just done that.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20110211/wl_ … ss_mubarak

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#1376987 by hmhefDonor (VIP) at 2011-02-11 18:25:30 (2 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report]Top

VeryBadGuy wrote:

Be careful what you wish for..

I don't see any guarentee of reform or free elections under the Military.
They remember exactly who it was tho assasinated Sadat and as Mubarek was one of their own had their hands forced by his unpopularity rather than some sort of loyalty to the people. If they had been loyal to the people it wouldn't have taken them 30 years to take over would it?

Some people think that we will have government of angels from the sky , and that some people will have magic sticks to solve all the different protesters' different problems (political / religious / economical).

People in the streets today need to stay having the same spirit, and to be patient, and do something positive, not just criticize the bad stuff.

Quote:

Now the real challange starts.

yup.



edit:

the main positive outcome of this sitiuation, is that after reading in history about people that defended their home with their own lives, .. people got a chance to test themselves, and this is what happened in the absence of the police, and while there is multiple prison breaks, almost everyone have stepped up and protected their homes, .. people have regained confidence in themselves.



edit2:

i really really really hope that someone reasonable step up and enter the next election, the current list of possible candidates are a joke, i'd be ok with omar soliman

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#1377018 by demagh (User) at 2011-02-11 20:46:55 (2 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report]Top

amr mousa >> very reliable till now
omar solayman >> though i don't agree with him as a choice and i don't think he'll be going as a candidate
el baradie

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amr mousa or baradie will win

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#1377022 by hmhefDonor (VIP) at 2011-02-11 21:13:31 (2 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report]Top

el baradie, .. is a joke, go read loads of groups on facebook opposing to him, it sums up what i want to say pretty nicely.
thankfully, he announced that he is not going to run.
he lived outside egypt more than he lived inside, and he doesnt have any idea about our internal problems.
all the ideals he talk about sounds good on paper, but wont be able to put anything in the real world
kinda old; 68yo, meaning in six years will be 74.

amr mousa, .. i hope, but it is unlikely because he is too old (74yo),

omar solayman .. is not diplomatic enough, although very honest and direct, which is rare in politicians, and might cause him alot of opposition (like saying "democracy is conditional") ,
i trust him to make the right decision regarding international affairs,
and i trust him to choose the right people for internal affairs.
also 74yo now :/

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#1377025 by sniperfin (Camo admin) at 2011-02-11 21:19:14 (2 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report]Top

Now when you are changing history why not select a woman leader ?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amani_Asfour

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eva_Habil

#1377030 by slitt3r90 (Power User) at 2011-02-11 21:27:02 (2 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report]Top

sniperfin wrote:

Now when you are changing history why not select a woman leader ?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amani_Asfour

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eva_Habil

Who? I never heard of them before

#1377033 by hOG (Crusader Mod) at 2011-02-11 21:32:11 (2 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report]Top

sniperfin wrote:

Now when you are changing history why not select a woman leader ?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amani_Asfour

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eva_Habil

:lol:

If this was 24 the series.. Eqypt is a strong patriarchal society, hence all the old geezers and the faith that is put in them to fix things. You don't just go from patriarchal to progressive in one election.

#1377036 by sniperfin (Camo admin) at 2011-02-11 21:36:23 (2 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report]Top

If a coptic christian single mother can be elected as a town mayor defeating 5 male candinates, everything is possible in the heat of the moment

I have followed this egyptian revolution and most of the intellectuals outside the egypt which have been interviewed about the situation etc. have been women, and they have made an impression to me. Just like in iran, there seems to be well educated and wise women in egypt (and almost everyone has a long black hair, which naturally is a virtue alone).

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#1377042 by hOG (Crusader Mod) at 2011-02-11 21:46:34 (2 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report]Top

sniperfin wrote:

If a coptic christian single mother can be elected as a town mayor defeating 5 male candinates, everything is possible in the heat of the moment

Everything is possible, but the odds are not in "Cleopatra's" favor here, that she'll retake her throne anytime soon. And certainly not if she belongs to a religious minority (coptic Christianity). And should it happen she'll likely suffer a similar historical fate. You need to be a.. realist here ;o)

No, put one of the crusty old guys on board. Let it play out.

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