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#1406220 by pcgamerDonor (User) at 2011-05-31 18:07:08 (2 years ago) - [Report]Top

thugie wrote:

Nice iam going Canada instead. So is it easy to find for tourists in your country??

You just have to go to the right places and right people. There are people with shitty weed but just turn that down and find something better.

#1408512 by WarfareDonor (Power User) at 2011-06-08 01:45:21 (2 years ago) - [Report]Top

Okay..I gotta stop posting imgur pictures I guess..

OH! I just got my volcano vaporizer!=D Bags of joy!

Last edited by Warfare at 2011-06-08 01:48:59

#1408516 by deathadder (Power User) at 2011-06-08 03:12:06 (2 years ago) - [Report]Top

If imgur pics aint showing start using https, they show then

Anyway just noticed this stuff about the new dutch card policy, wow, this would be quite a turnaround, i know there have been rumors for years but this seems to have got alot further. I will be really disappointed if this happens, i love amsterdam have been 7-8 times now and im only mid 20's. The whole idea, the culture, the fact its looked upon as nothing more than a beer pretty much i've always loved (think every country should take that stance but ohwell) I know its never been legal but still.

#1408752 by shahryzzDonor (Power User) at 2011-06-08 22:39:39 (2 years ago) - [Report]Top

pcgamer wrote:

After hearing first hand report from a buddy of mine who recently went to Amsterdam I think i'll pass. He was my regular smoking buddy and he says the weed is expensive and isn't as potent as stuff up here in the great white north. Atleast for the tourists. What else is the reason to go there? legality and freedom to smoke anywhere? I pretty much do that over here too lol Honestly weed in Canada is borderline legal, cops hardly give a fuck. They would ask you to put it out if you are smoking in a populated area that's about it.

Besides that, Amsterdam is a beautiful city and very historic, it's unlike any other country and definitely a great place to visit.

#1408831 by WarfareDonor (Power User) at 2011-06-09 11:52:27 (2 years ago) - [Report]Top

shahryzz wrote:

Besides that, Amsterdam is a beautiful city and very historic, it's unlike any other country and definitely a great place to visit.

Problem being it won't be worth the trip later:p One of, if not THE most expencive city in europe to visit (along with London, Oslo and such). I mean, you can visit it once..but after that you kinda seen the boats, rivers and the wooden shoes/clogs...

Drugs and sex on the other hand never gets old:p

deathadder wrote:

If imgur pics aint showing start using https, they show then

I didnt get that to work..:/

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#1412732 by DXDDonor (Die-hard Staff) at 2011-06-26 15:26:06 (2 years ago) - [Report]Top

Chill requested this thread is re-opened.

#1412737 by Chill (Power User) at 2011-06-26 15:41:47 (2 years ago) - [Report]Top

Thanks! Just wanted to drop this by regarding amasterdam and such!

Coffeeshop News wrote:

This is the translation of a letter sent to the coffeeshop unions in the Netherlands, I am proud to translate this good news....

Dear folks,
The big news today is that the new Tolerance Policy will become active from July 1, 2011, and will be valid until June 30 2015(!). The AHOJG criteria are already avaiable onwww.openbaarministerie.nl The good news is not much is going to change.

The most important conclusion is that the AHOJG crtieria have not been complemented with the Weedpass and the Distance Criteria. Nothing changes in this area.

The announced additions will not be part of the national regulations for coffeeshops.

This means that all the evil measurements from The Hague, including weedpass and distance criteria, can only be implemented on a local level. This means the weedpass and the distance criteria will probably not make it in Amsterdam. These announced measurements, that would lead to a coffeeshop wipe-out in Amsterdam, can only be implemented through local legislation by the City Council.

The City Council already spoke out against the weedpass and the distance criteria, like the Mayor, who will be held to execute and maintain the new Tolerance rulebook. This is also included in the Opiumlaw art. 31b.

Especially the long term of the new Tolerance regulations stands out, 4 years going! This is a first, and appears to be a signal that The Hague decided that de introduction of the weedpass and the new distance criteria and everything else Justice Minister Opstelten comes up with is to be decided on by individual City Councils. The City Council has toe execute or deny new measurements. The Mayor has to uphold the rules in the end.

This means in Amsterdam there will be no mayor changes.

The 5 plant rule stays intact.

I salute you, MR. Maurice Veldman,

Legal rep. for the BCD and THC.

Translation: Nol van Schaik.

http://coffeeshopnews.nl/index.php?opti … =2154#2154


Although at the same time they talk about this shit now..http://www.dutchnews.nl/news/archives/2011/06/strong_marijuana_is_a_hard_dru.php

Basically, all weed over 15% THC level should be classified as a hard drug like heroin ect.. The level of stupidity

#1412747 by unknown[281245] at 2011-06-26 16:29:41 (2 years ago) - [Report]Top

Happy to hear that they have to pass it on a local level

Was a bit worried that on my next trip it would be all shady back alley deals and the like.

:stoner: :stoner2:

#1412752 by TheBlues (Power User) at 2011-06-26 16:46:41 (2 years ago) - [Report]Top

This is awesome news. This means that I can postpone my trip to Amsterdam to next summer without having to worry that I might not get into coffeeshops.

#1412790 by unknown[296315] at 2011-06-26 19:24:49 (2 years ago) - [Report]Top

this is great new was worried that they would be gone by time im back again

#1412934 by VizlaNDonor (Power User) at 2011-06-27 09:06:46 (2 years ago) - [Report]Top

Chill wrote:

Thanks! Just wanted to drop this by regarding amasterdam and such!
Basically, all weed over 15% THC level should be classified as a hard drug like heroin ect.. The level of stupidity

IF only the THC-level of the plant gets the focus of the breeders, then yes. If the relationship between THC and CBD/CBN/etc gets fucked up it will cause what is in psychology described as a severe psychotic episode. However if the relationship gets maintained, this is not the case. All depends on what is available in NL

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#1417045 by pimpNeasy007Donor (Staff) at 2011-07-16 03:42:06 (2 years ago) - [Report]Top

Timex requested this thread is re-opened.

#1417142 by Timex (Power User) at 2011-07-16 16:30:49 (2 years ago) - [Report]Top

Just a bit of news.

This past week a few miles east of me on public land they started this years "eradication" and removed one small 20,000 plant Pot grow.

Also this week down in Baja California,Mexico (about 900-1,000 miles south of me) they raided and burned a 300 acre Pot farm with 8 foot high plants which still had 2 months to go before flowering.

Here is video of that:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp … 1#43776091

#1417144 by GermsDonor (Paulo DiCanio's Disciple) at 2011-07-16 16:37:21 (2 years ago) - [Report]Top

Timex wrote:

Just a bit of news.

This past week a few miles east of me on public land they started this years "eradication" and removed one small 20,000 plant Pot grow.

Also this week down in Baja California,Mexico (about 900-1,000 miles south of me) they raided and burned a 300 acre Pot farm with 8 foot high plants which still had 2 months to go before flowering.

Here is video of that:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp … 1#43776091

Amazing isn't it? The government can spend a fortune wiping out profitable illegal farms and yet can't spend a plug nickel helping the failing legal farmers!

#1417150 by Timex (Power User) at 2011-07-16 17:03:32 (2 years ago) - [Report]Top

Well to be honest both these grows are being done by the Mexican drug gangs...the same people that cut off heads and place them on a pole in town for everyone to see...the same people who have turned Mexico into the murder capitol of the world.

Everyone around my ranch grows some Pot but they are smart enough to have a medical exemption under California law, and it is not PUBLIC land that the federal government patrols.

Notice the plants had already reached 8 foot tall and still had until September before flowering.
Like I said earlier in this thread that here in California an -outdoor- grow will depending on the strain give 1-2 1/2 KILOS of dried extra sticky buds per plant.
You just can't get that same production under lights and I have yet to see the same potency either even with the same strains.
Indoor grows don't have the same energy per sq foot nor do they have the same amount of time after flowering to allow the glands to fill to the bursting point.

My ranch is east of the top end of what they call the "emerald triangle" in California.
http://www.google.com/search?q=emerald+ … =firefox-a

Last edited by Timex at 2011-07-16 17:08:22

#1417151 by unknown[445176] at 2011-07-16 17:10:56 (2 years ago) - [Report]Top

That post just made holland suck,.. dumb people here,. they create small plants only for high thc,. the flavour is lost here,.. I do not dare smoke it pure..bah 

Coffeshops mostly in hands of mafia,.We need quality control here,.

there is more then thc,..

Coming to the states soon again i hope,. Cali is my "promised" land right now,..

*Applying for gardening duties> Original dutch farmer,.

#1417200 by johnboyjoe (User) at 2011-07-16 22:42:36 (2 years ago) - [Report]Top

Timex wrote:

Notice the plants had already reached 8 foot tall and still had until September before flowering.
Like I said earlier in this thread that here in California an -outdoor- grow will depending on the strain give 1-2 1/2 KILOS of dried extra sticky buds per plant.
You just can't get that same production under lights and I have yet to see the same potency either even with the same strains.
Indoor grows don't have the same energy per sq foot nor do they have the same amount of time after flowering to allow the glands to fill to the bursting point.

see that pic i posted on the last page, he pulled 30lb with 10 plants maybe 8 and 10k of light, the plants have probably only had 4-5 weeks veg too lol

also i think you'll find that the same strain of weed grown indoor with CO2 will be more potent than being grown outdoors.

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#1417202 by Timex (Power User) at 2011-07-16 22:55:28 (2 years ago) - [Report]Top

Quote:

i think you'll find that weed grown indoor with CO2 is stronger than anything grown outdoors

I have yet to see any indoor Pot as strong as outdoor.
Most in the "medical dispensary" never grow it in flower long enough to let the glands ripen to the bursting point would be the reason.

10 plants @ 3 lbs sounds good for indoor but the same 10 plants outdoor of Afgan Kush here can yield as high as 45 lbs of better sticky...like Velcro.

(edited tags)

Last edited by Timex at 2011-07-17 05:13:08

#1417206 by johnboyjoe (User) at 2011-07-16 23:11:12 (2 years ago) - [Report]Top

mind though that's 30lb in 14-15 weeks.

CO2 indoors when done right produces more resin than the same plant outdoors, simple.

edit:

actually there really is no point in arguing this we kind of been here before lol u continue to believe what ya want.

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#1417237 by VizlaNDonor (Power User) at 2011-07-17 01:32:40 (2 years ago) - [Report]Top

Timex wrote:


You just can't get that same production under lights and I have yet to see the same potency either even with the same strains.
Indoor grows don't have the same energy per sq foot nor do they have the same amount of time after flowering to allow the glands to fill to the bursting point.

Ofc you can, but it's a shitload more expensive than using the almighty free Sun. What prevents setting up extra lights(Not needed to copy the suns lumen and specter, just saying), fans to make the stem grow thicker or for that matter give the plant an extra week or two of flushing to, as you say, allow the glands to fill to the bursting point?
Granted you are correct about the same production, without crounching the numbers I bet that would be a mighty big electrical bill.

#1417254 by Timex (Power User) at 2011-07-17 05:23:17 (2 years ago) - [Report]Top

VizlaN wrote:

Timex wrote:


You just can't get that same production under lights and I have yet to see the same potency either even with the same strains.
Indoor grows don't have the same energy per sq foot nor do they have the same amount of time after flowering to allow the glands to fill to the bursting point.

Ofc you can, but it's a shitload more expensive than using the almighty free Sun. What prevents setting up extra lights(Not needed to copy the suns lumen and specter, just saying), fans to make the stem grow thicker or for that matter give the plant an extra week or two of flushing to, as you say, allow the glands to fill to the bursting point?
Granted you are correct about the same production, without crounching the numbers I bet that would be a mighty big electrical bill.

Even here it would be almost cost preventive with standard lighting vs production and resin output vs outdoor sunlight...but not everyone is able to grow outdoors given latitude and altitude.

Enter high output LED systems that provide better and more useful output with just 357 watts than a 1,000 watt "standard" bulb and without the heat.

Quote:

mind though that's 30lb in 14-15 weeks

Add 4 weeks to that...no electric bill...no gas bill...no real labor...and from what I have seen double the resin output and you have that outdoor California grow.

Good Pot can be had for as little as $40 per Oz yet the same in a "medical outlet" could run as high as $20 per gram down in L.A. ...all depends on who you know and how close to the outdoor growing areas you are.

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#1417280 by johnboyjoe (User) at 2011-07-17 11:26:25 (2 years ago) - [Report]Top

we were talking about production and potency not cost :lol:

plenty of disadvantages growing outdoors!

where's your grow?

#1420245 by kuskelaDonor (Dr. Bombay) at 2011-07-30 19:30:19 (1 year ago) - [Report]Top

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#1420256 by Timex (Power User) at 2011-07-30 20:38:04 (1 year ago) - [Report]Top

Cops bust huge pot farm in Calif. national forest

Quote:

...uprooted 460,000 pot plants...

So the annual summer pot raids started a few weeks ago and will run until late October...and they only get a small bit of it all.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/43953968/ns … nd_courts/

#1420347 by WarfareDonor (Power User) at 2011-07-31 12:49:20 (1 year ago) - [Report]Top

Timex wrote:

Cops bust huge pot farm in Calif. national forest

Quote:

...uprooted 460,000 pot plants...

So the annual summer pot raids started a few weeks ago and will run until late October...and they only get a small bit of it all.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/43953968/ns … nd_courts/

What a waste...to uproot fucking plants they use HOW much money?
 

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