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Movies & TV > HBO Greenlights "Game of Thrones".

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#1531026 by sauriel (Power User) at 2013-05-16 08:59:47 (2 months ago) - [Quote] - [Report]Top

i enjoy the khaleesi scenes the most (not just because she's beautiful and has dragons derp) but there's always seem to be something going on, rather than just a soap opera.
which is why it baffles me why she mostly only has a scene or max two in every episode

Last edited by sauriel at 2013-05-16 09:00:23

#1531027 by Chill (Power User) at 2013-05-16 09:06:48 (2 months ago) - [Quote] - [Report]Top

it's a shame though, I really enjoyd season 1 and 2 but as most people say season 3 for me is way to draged out, which is wierd since most series peak during the 3 season, this is where the actors now comfterble with what they are doing with the characters, where the scriptswriters can really dig into the storyline and the director(s) have bascilly a free and steady view on what he or she wants to direct.

Sadly, this is not the case here

#1531028 by alupigus (Lumberjack) at 2013-05-16 09:14:26 (2 months ago) - [Quote] - [Report]Top

sauriel wrote:

i enjoy the khaleesi scenes the most (not just because she's beautiful and has dragons derp) but there's always seem to be something going on, rather than just a soap opera.

....that`s exactly what`s wrong with this season for me.They manage to transform the thriller from the north in a soap opera and "the teenage drama" of the khaleesi in something interesting.And I thing that`s HBO fault.

#1531034 by Skelitore (User) at 2013-05-16 13:28:13 (2 months ago) - [Quote] - [Report]Top

The khaleesi scenes are probably the most expensive so they have to limit them I guess.

Am I right in thinking the next episode is the one directed by George R R Martin?

#1531036 by EspenT (Power User) at 2013-05-16 13:42:01 (2 months ago) - [Quote] - [Report]Top

I'm pretty sure GRRM was involved in the making of ep6 this season. The last two seasons he has written ep9, but he didn't want to write it this year. Or so I've heard.

#1531044 by hOG (Crusader Mod) at 2013-05-16 15:21:20 (2 months ago) - [Quote] - [Report]Top

Skelitore wrote:

The khaleesi scenes are probably the most expensive so they have to limit them I guess.

Am I right in thinking the next episode is the one directed by George R R Martin?

It is not known.

#1531045 by Mogggs (Power User) at 2013-05-16 15:29:18 (2 months ago) - [Quote] - [Report]Top

Skelitore wrote:

The khaleesi scenes are probably the most expensive so they have to limit them I guess.

Am I right in thinking the next episode is the one directed by George R R Martin?

iMDB says next episode is directed by Michelle MacLaren (who also directed ep7).

#1531047 by qbert95 (Power User) at 2013-05-16 15:33:12 (2 months ago) - [Quote] - [Report]Top

There is 0.0 chance HBO would let some (hack :whistle:) writer direct their prized gem hyper expensive show.

#1531049 by hOG (Crusader Mod) at 2013-05-16 15:50:23 (2 months ago) - [Quote] - [Report]Top

qbert95 wrote:

There is 0.0 chance HBO would let some (hack :whistle:) writer direct their prized gem hyper expensive show.

He has directed previous episodes from previous seasons that were quite good. The attack on King's Landing I think he had something to do with. Full bang for the american buck.

#1531051 by ViiksneDonor (TB's SC2 Wizard) at 2013-05-16 16:12:54 (2 months ago) - [Quote] - [Report]Top

hOG wrote:

qbert95 wrote:

There is 0.0 chance HBO would let some (hack :whistle:) writer direct their prized gem hyper expensive show.

He has directed previous episodes from previous seasons that were quite good. The attack on King's Landing I think he had something to do with. Full bang for the american buck.

George R. R. Martin has only done writing for the episodes:
S1E9
S2E9
S3E7

The issue with episode 7 this season however is that in editing, due to timelines and stuff, a lot of Gurms scenes got moved around and shuffled. Originally his episode this season was titled "Autumn Storms" but after editing renamed to "Bear and Maiden Fair".

Note, he has had nothing to do with directing or editing, he is just given an "episode" a season that he writes.

Last edited by Viiksne at 2013-05-16 16:13:33

#1531053 by alupigus (Lumberjack) at 2013-05-16 16:20:08 (2 months ago) - [Quote] - [Report]Top

Skelitore wrote:

The khaleesi scenes are probably the most expensive so they have to limit them I guess.

I think they spend to much on CGI for those scenes (the f*cking lizards) and by doing that they were force to cut off the dire-wolf scenes.IMO that`s the reason Rob, Jon Snow and even Bran story-line looks so weak.

#1531081 by DrevoKocour (Power User) at 2013-05-16 22:49:34 (2 months ago) - [Quote] - [Report]Top

I don't know just how much I'm straying into the terrible territory of 'the books' but you guys really miss the wolves? Or actually think that their missing is somehow a big detour from the original story and influences it in a major way?

#1531099 by sillent (Power User) at 2013-05-17 04:11:27 (2 months ago) - [Quote] - [Report]Top

Viiksne wrote:

hOG wrote:

qbert95 wrote:

There is 0.0 chance HBO would let some (hack :whistle:) writer direct their prized gem hyper expensive show.

He has directed previous episodes from previous seasons that were quite good. The attack on King's Landing I think he had something to do with. Full bang for the american buck.

George R. R. Martin has only done writing for the episodes:
S1E9
S2E9
S3E7

The issue with episode 7 this season however is that in editing, due to timelines and stuff, a lot of Gurms scenes got moved around and shuffled. Originally his episode this season was titled "Autumn Storms" but after editing renamed to "Bear and Maiden Fair".

Note, he has had nothing to do with directing or editing, he is just given an "episode" a season that he writes.

99.999% sure GRRM wrote S1E8 and not E9. The season 3 episode wasn't too great, more so with the lack of events, though I still think he gave The North significance in their lines unlike in all previous episodes.

#1531103 by VeryBadGuyDonor (Mad Ultra Mod) at 2013-05-17 07:27:18 (2 months ago) - [Quote] - [Report]Top

DrevoKocour wrote:

I don't know just how much I'm straying into the terrible territory of 'the books' but you guys really miss the wolves? Or actually think that their missing is somehow a big detour from the original story and influences it in a major way?

they are not a huge part in the books either the story goes on for awhile and you don't see or hear so much about them either. The season is boring but it isn't as if they have strayed from the books in order to do so. The problem is the books are long and there are too many characters to follow for a tv show. But that's going to stop soon enough I believe.

Sansa's wolf died
Arya sent hers away
Rob's is with him and you see it occasionally but even in the book it isn't a major part (I am sure it will be in an upcoming episode)
Jon sent his away while he is with the wildlings moving on castle black

the only ones I think that they have ignored are Bran and Ricken's wolves as they are a big part of their storyline.

#1531104 by alupigus (Lumberjack) at 2013-05-17 07:41:38 (2 months ago) - [Quote] - [Report]Top

DrevoKocour wrote:

I don't know just how much I'm straying into the terrible territory of 'the books' but you guys really miss the wolves? Or actually think that their missing is somehow a big detour from the original story and influences it in a major way?

We enter in the books  territory, so is better to wait until season 3 is over an then have a talk about it.

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#1531106 by unknown[13572] at 2013-05-17 08:45:47 (2 months ago) - [Quote] - [Report]Top

alupigus wrote:

DrevoKocour wrote:

I don't know just how much I'm straying into the terrible territory of 'the books' but you guys really miss the wolves? Or actually think that their missing is somehow a big detour from the original story and influences it in a major way?

We enter in the books  territory, so is better to wait until season 3 is over an then have a talk about it.
..In the books Grey Wind is always near Rob until he meets Jeyne (Talisa).I don`t say more if you read the books you know what I meant.

Curiosity got the better of me and I just found out what happens, Fuckin' hell!

#1531109 by DrevoKocour (Power User) at 2013-05-17 10:38:55 (2 months ago) - [Quote] - [Report]Top

alupigus wrote:

DrevoKocour wrote:

I don't know just how much I'm straying into the terrible territory of 'the books' but you guys really miss the wolves? Or actually think that their missing is somehow a big detour from the original story and influences it in a major way?

We enter in the books  territory, so is better to wait until season 3 is over an then have a talk about it.
expected a juicy spoiler didn't you, but now it is me who has spoiled you by spoilering your spoileritude with a spoiler of my own

You just had to highlight a spoiler, didn't you, you silly person you, a spoiler in the TV show thread, what did you expect to gain from that, was the temptation too strong to overcome, perhaps, were you too weak minded to preserve the enjoyment of the show for the sake of a momentary satisfaction of your curiosity? But now you have done it and there's no turning back, is there... Dumbledore dies.

Maybe we should move this to the book thread...

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#1531111 by alupigus (Lumberjack) at 2013-05-17 11:09:10 (2 months ago) - [Quote] - [Report]Top

DrevoKocour wrote:

Maybe we should move this to the book thread...

Agree.

#1531126 by Mogggs (Power User) at 2013-05-17 16:06:41 (2 months ago) - [Quote] - [Report]Top

Maybe you should edit your replies here and remove the spoilers so people dont get tempted like Quickblood did (even though they are in spoiler tags)

#1531200 by Dexter (Power User) at 2013-05-18 11:19:36 (2 months ago) - [Quote] - [Report]Top

Dunno what you people are complaining about, I haven't read the books but could tell from about the very beginning that this won't be a series where they show a lot of "action" and for the most part I don't miss it. It's more about political intrigue and sharp dialogues/conversations kind of like House of Cards also was and I loved that too.
Scenes like these are worth a lot more than dozen of people fake-hacking each others limbs off for minutes:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YA_plXX38BI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bix3yznsXCI
As someone else said, Spartacus for instance has a shitload of that, but it was one of the shittier recent series I watched and I stopped after the pilot.

I also kinda like the Khaleesi scenes almost the least at the moment.
I actually looked on the Internetz if she possibly gets killed any time soon (this/next season) and they can get rid of that part of the story, unfortunately that don't seem to be happening. :/

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#1531203 by alupigus (Lumberjack) at 2013-05-18 12:50:07 (2 months ago) - [Quote] - [Report]Top

Dexter wrote:

It's more about political intrigue and sharp dialogues/conversations kind of like House of Cards also was and I loved that too.
Scenes like these are worth a lot more than dozen of people fake-hacking each others limbs off for minutes:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YA_plXX38BI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bix3yznsXCI

You are absolutely right.Like I said it before GOT is about politics, intrigues, characters and their choices and decisions.My problem is not the lack of action but the fact that they fail to proper explain some characters.And a perfect example are those two scenes from your post.
From the way those scenes are directed and because Charles Dance is a brilliant actor he manage to make from Tywin Lannister a likable character and he`s nothing like that.
And on the other hand all that Kit Harington manage to do with his appearance is to transform a likable character as Jon Snow into an average emo young guy.

#1531212 by hOG (Crusader Mod) at 2013-05-18 14:10:02 (2 months ago) - [Quote] - [Report]Top

alupigus wrote:


You are absolutely right.Like I said it before GOT is about politics, intrigues, characters and their choices and decisions.My problem is not the lack of action but the fact that they fail to proper explain some characters.And a perfect example are those two scenes from your post.
From the way those scenes are directed and because Charles Dance is a brilliant actor he manage to make from Tywin Lannister a likable character and he`s nothing like that.
And on the other hand all that Kit Harington manage to do with his appearance is to transform a likable character as Jon Snow into an average emo young guy.

People who haven't read the books can't make these comparisons. Maybe the problem with the tv-show is for the director and writers to choose the parts of the book that give suspense to the action and move the plot along for the show. Ep7 was pretty much lacking suspense, too much "talk" stuff from the books. Previous episodes in this season have been more balanced out, but still a lot of talk (still an ok season), but ep7 was just boring. For the first time qbert hit the mark. And if it is the same female director next time...

#1531213 by WolcomDonor (Power User) at 2013-05-18 14:15:20 (2 months ago) - [Quote] - [Report]Top

Peoples attentionspan is so bad nowadays that talk is considered bad?

#1531226 by alupigus (Lumberjack) at 2013-05-18 16:18:30 (2 months ago) - [Quote] - [Report]Top

hOG wrote:

Maybe the problem with the tv-show is for the director and writers to choose the parts of the book that give suspense to the action and move the plot along for the show....

Yes and I think they are not moving in the right direction.There are a lot of "things in motion" ,much more characters than in previous seasons,many new faces ,many different plots.This season should have been more than 10 episodes long. Much more.

....just to make a point:

First book - A Game of Thrones - 672 pages (hardback) ..... Season 1 - 10 episodes ... it was good

Second book - A Clash of Kings - 708 pages (hardback).......Season 2  - 10 episodes .... it was OK

Third book - A Storm of Swords - 976 pages (hardback) ......Season 3 - 10 episodes ....it will be  mediocre.

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#1531231 by VeryBadGuyDonor (Mad Ultra Mod) at 2013-05-18 17:54:57 (2 months ago) - [Quote] - [Report]Top

Dexter wrote:

As someone else said, Spartacus for instance has a shitload of that, but it was one of the shittier recent series I watched and I stopped after the pilot.

biggest mistake you ever made as aside from non-stop action it has plenty of nudity, great acting, great dialogue and great writing.
GOT is okie but Spartacus was fucking epic in so many ways (even if I felt a lot like you after the first episode.)

BTW A storm of swords was pretty boring till you had finished around 70% of it so the show is actually staying pretty true to the spirit of the story IMO

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