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#1447385 by hOG (Crusader Mod) at 2011-12-07 17:14:51 (1 year ago) - [Quote] - [Report]

Borstis62 wrote:

hOG wrote:

http://i.imgur.com/eSz0H.jpg

lulz?

http://i.imgur.com/dWcjc.jpg
lolz?

No, but this is funny. In the name of multiculturalism Sweden gives up the nordic 100 year old tradition of police uniform wearing. Meanwhile in Sweden... introducing the police hidjab wearing woman Donna

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#1447386 by TheBlues (Power User) at 2011-12-07 17:26:23 (1 year ago) - [Quote] - [Report]

hOG wrote:

CyberRascal wrote:

Haha Tabole, I didn't know about that... Greeeat fun.

It's the swedish royal family having lunch with the leader of the "racist" party. All first-time leaders of elected parties are invited to eat lunch with them - apparently that one was a bit uncomfortable.

Considering it is the second largest party in Sweden in the polls it shouldn't be.. should it. Swedes are notoriously scared of criticizing multiculturalism.

http://i.imgur.com/jlgoh.jpg

Wow, are you just incredibly stupid or is this another example of your famous incomprehensible sarcasm?

You're using an aftonbladet poll as a source for your argument, are you aware of that? This would be brain numbingly stupid even if aftonbladet wasn't the shittiest "news"paper in the world. I mean, the amount of participants in the poll is below 25k, how in the hell could that give an accurate representation of Swedish people's voting habits. They don't teach you to criticize sources in theology class? Even a child with basic knowledge of statistics would be able to spot the astronomical holes in your argument.

But then again, you consider the bible to be a solid source. Enough said.

Edit: Perhaps I should open up a thread where we can discuss this? I don't think it's very nice of us to fill The Random Picture Thread with large walls of text.

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#1447392 by hOG (Crusader Mod) at 2011-12-07 17:43:29 (1 year ago) - [Quote] - [Report]

Good, good. Attacking my character and not the actual substance of what was posted. Should I expect less from a trolol who has something at stake... by now you must know that representative polls fiddle with even less respondents (e.g. 1075 is the industry standard). To undermine 25.000 (democratic) voters in the sense that you do was expected.

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#1447396 by TheBlues (Power User) at 2011-12-07 17:53:09 (1 year ago) - [Quote] - [Report]

hOG wrote:

I attacked the substance of what was posted. Only when I was done with that did I "attack" your person, or rather I tried to find a reason for why you would post that poll here. The only reason I could find was that you are indifferent to the quality of your sources which is indicated by your faith.

Also, it's not that aftonbladet has a too small poll but that it doesn't choose the people for the poll with enough care. Representative polls choose people from different social classes and areas to make the poll represent the entire Swedish population. Aftonbladet, on the other hand, put their polls on their website and let the reader choose whether to vote or not. So aftonbladet only measures the political affiliation of those who read their website and care enough to vote in their poll.

SD got something around 5.2% of votes in the last election and representative polls show that they haven't really improved their numbers by very much.

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#1447400 by fsugusu (Power User) at 2011-12-07 17:56:53 (1 year ago) - [Quote] - [Report]

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#1447405 by Borstis62 (Power User) at 2011-12-07 18:00:21 (1 year ago) - [Quote] - [Report]

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moar pics

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#1447409 by hOG (Crusader Mod) at 2011-12-07 18:10:44 (1 year ago) - [Quote] - [Report]

@TheBlues

No, you thought that you were being clever and commented on just one of my post. I'm glad the police hidjab woman got you out of the closet. I'm wondering if you are going to find faults now with my intellect or humor (that was your question, remember) concerning the data from Sweden's national statistics. Probably not.

So you have discovered that representative polls have more merit. I agree. Only you cannot disregard the poll from aftonbladet like it was nothing. But you do, because it is convenient for you. I don't.

The last election was last year. Lets hope they improve in four years.

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#1447417 by TheBlues (Power User) at 2011-12-07 19:16:52 (1 year ago) - [Quote] - [Report]

hOG wrote:

Not only can I disregard the poll from aftonbladet, but the logic and reason state that I must. It's a freaking newspaper internet poll, it just says that the newspaper is popular in the party.

Do you even know anything about the party? I've read entire books about Sverigedemokraterna, my mother who works as an economist with the government has handled their requests for information on the Swedish budget and my friend's father was involved in the party for many years but left. I've had the chance to collect information about them from many different perspectives and it's pretty much a shit party. Their entire economic policy is to remove all the money "given to immigrants" and use it to balance the economy. They've made erroneous claims countless times about the economic strain on the society by immigrants.

Even if their number made sense, it's a ridiculous ideology. To integrate immigrants into society by removing funding to organizations like SFI where immigrants can go to learn the Swedish language? They are just so unhappy with the integration policy that they want to destroy it, but surely that won't solve the immigration issue?

The power structure in the party is also a fun thing to criticize. All the major decisions in the party are basically made by the group of friends who changed the party from being openly racist to xenophobic consisting of Jimmy �kesson, Bj�rn S�der, the Ekeroth brothers and a few others. This has left the lower levels of the party disconnected and cut off which explains the huge amount of empty seats on commune level. They have a skeleton party which can't even summon up enough people to fill their elected seats.

And of course, I should tell you about their numerous scandals. A riksdagsman who is also a drug addict left the party to become politically unbound but still remains one of the 365 people who rule this country. That high level party member who linked videos and praised a crazy professor who describes black people as animals and claims they are genetically inferior. And their incompetent riksdagsman who thought that 400 000 euro was 40 000 000 000 000 kronor. And not to mention the large amount of SD members who agree with Breiviks crazy ideology.

I have plenty more to say but I think this post has too much text already for this thread. Although we can relocate if you want to be educated some more

#1447418 by sniperfin (Camo admin) at 2011-12-07 19:18:45 (1 year ago) - [Quote] - [Report]

In all fairness in finland last year it was the opposite.
The real polls (which were made by organizations specialized for doing them) gave our Multiculture/immigration critical party 13-15% of votes, the polls on newspaper websites gave them around 20% which then was what happened.
And after the voting they have been growing all the time now being the biggest party (they were 3rd last time by a small margin).
The so called poll experts said that they failed in the correction multipliers etc. because the rise was so huge (they came from 5% to 20%) while the newspaper polls only measured the votes and didn't choose and use any kind of correction measures,
Sure in general real polls naturally are more accurate but you can see the direction in the normal newspaper polls aswell.

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#1447427 by hOG (Crusader Mod) at 2011-12-07 20:00:42 (1 year ago) - [Quote] - [Report]

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Do you even know anything about the party?

Yes, I know plenty about them. And Danes got to know more about them on TV last year when in Sweden their election video was censored. Thankfully, they were brought on Danish tv and we could see for ourselves the ridiculous Swedish overreaction. How pitiful you have turned. I would post the debate program on random video thread, but its not in English and this has gone too far.

ahh.. screw it, its Christmas: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Igf_-29UuZk (swedish subs)

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And not to mention the large amount of SD members who agree with Breiviks crazy ideology

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Do you know what the Red Army Faction is? How many members on the left do you think "agree" with the Baader-Meinhof Group ideology? You can convict other people of thought-crime very easily by playing the association game. Politically I'm a nationalist-conservative right now. Think Michael Coren Show. I guess I agree with Breviks crazy ideology then. What are you going to do about it?

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if you want to be educated some more

If I had time.

@Sniper

Now that's a beautiful cop!

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(okay, its an actress.. but the uniform is real)

#1447436 by TheBlues (Power User) at 2011-12-07 20:36:09 (1 year ago) - [Quote] - [Report]

hOG wrote:

Thankfully, they were brought on Danish tv and we could see for ourselves the ridiculous Swedish overreaction. How pitiful you have turned. I would post the debate program on random video thread, but its not in English and this has gone too far.

ahh.. screw it, its Christmas: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Igf_-29UuZk (swedish subs)

I think that video is actually pretty good at highlighting the idiocy of SD. The woman on that show who criticizes the SD commercial scores point after point in the discussion with Jimmie �kesson. Surely you can't think it's an ok commercial?

hOG wrote:

Do you know what the Red Army Faction is? How many members on the left do you think "agree" with the Baader-Meinhof Group ideology? You can convict other people of thought-crime very easily by playing the association game. Politically I'm a nationalist-conservative right now. Think Michael Coren Show. I guess I agree with Breviks crazy ideology then. What are you going to do about it?

I'm going to criticize your political ideology. What else do you expect me to do? You're free to have your opinion, it's not like I'm going hunt you down and hurt you because you have sick beliefs. Also, the argument on Breivik was more trivia than actual criticism, I made plenty of other valid points, but of course you ignore them.

#1447450 by hOG (Crusader Mod) at 2011-12-07 21:05:50 (1 year ago) - [Quote] - [Report]

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@TheBlues

You misunderstood my point. The election video was censored. It didn't get a chance to be criticized, commented on or cheered in Sweden. A political party is censored in a democratic country - which is said to honor freedom of speech. A Nordic country even. Preposterous. Does it matter what I think of the election video...

#1447451 by TheBlues (Power User) at 2011-12-07 21:13:51 (1 year ago) - [Quote] - [Report]

hOG wrote:

You misunderstood my point. The election video was censored. It didn't get a chance to be criticized, commented on or cheered in Sweden. A political party is censored in a democratic country - which is said to honor freedom of speech. A Nordic country even. Preposterous. Does it matter what I think of the election video...

I also dislike that the election video was censored. I am for the media publishing the shenanigans of SD since it will only illuminate the party's incompetence. And yes, it does matter since I am having a discussion with you. I'm mainly interested in criticizing you and your beliefs.

Also, science:

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#1447460 by Angelitta (Power User) at 2011-12-07 21:40:52 (1 year ago) - [Quote] - [Report]

Too much talking...

#1447471 by DXD Donor

(Die-hard Staff) at 2011-12-07 21:52:48 (1 year ago) - [Quote] - [Report]

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#1447497 by fgdfg Donor

(User) at 2011-12-07 23:42:43 (1 year ago) - [Quote] - [Report]

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#1447542 by lendl (Power User) at 2011-12-08 10:14:19 (1 year ago) - [Quote] - [Report]

#1447569 by beblebox (Power User) at 2011-12-08 14:02:26 (1 year ago) - [Quote] - [Report]

heres another poll from the same newspaper asking if you would exchange your partner with a robot. other than that cant you mofos start talking in this thread instead http://www.torrentbytes.net/forum_view … amp;page=1 ? dont bogart this thread, man!

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#1447577 by Sargoth (Power User) at 2011-12-08 14:18:31 (1 year ago) - [Quote] - [Report]

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#1447593 by Daxi (Power User) at 2011-12-08 16:40:07 (1 year ago) - [Quote] - [Report]

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#1447610 by Timex (Power User) at 2011-12-08 19:21:31 (1 year ago) - [Quote] - [Report]

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#1447611 by fgdfg Donor

(User) at 2011-12-08 19:26:25 (1 year ago) - [Quote] - [Report]

Timex wrote:

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#1447614 by Angelitta (Power User) at 2011-12-08 19:51:24 (1 year ago) - [Quote] - [Report]

#1447626 by Timex (Power User) at 2011-12-08 20:48:30 (1 year ago) - [Quote] - [Report]

Angelitta wrote:

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#1447632 by EspenT (Power User) at 2011-12-08 21:16:03 (1 year ago) - [Quote] - [Report]

Angelitta wrote:

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It's the new baby Jesus! And it seems he's due on christmas eve.

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