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#1200587 by VizlaNDonor (Power User) at 2009-11-09 13:39:03 (3 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report]Top

Was kinda shocked when I heard on another forum someone mentioning around 500,000 xbox's have been banned so far. Gave no link, so if someone can verify this that would be appreciated.
So piracy is, after all, a big problem on the consoles as well ?

#1200650 by unknown[9089] at 2009-11-09 17:41:25 (3 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report]Top

not really tbh, if they have banned 500k users and I am certain no one except microsoft has those numbers so I would take that with a pinch of salt., it would be a tiny drop in the ocean.

there are about 15 million xbox live users and roughly 30 million 360`s out there, my estimation would be around 10% of these machines are modded.

the vast majority of 360 owners I know are unwilling to invalidate the warranty on there consoles, this is a huge factor I think as to why piracy is not really a big problem for the 360.

microsoft has to appear tough on piracy if only to keep the game devs/publishers happy.

when you can mod a 360 without invalidating any kind of warranty or t&c`s then I do think it would become a "problem".

#1200847 by wardukeDonor (Power User) at 2009-11-10 00:45:23 (3 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report]Top

W00T!!  Banned..

I'd be upset, but what good would that do hahaha.

Pretty certain it has something to do with their latest patch.  As no early releases nor wave 4 has ever touched the system.

#1200950 by EarwigDonor (VIP) at 2009-11-10 10:12:53 (3 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report]Top

Got 1.6 in my liteon but it's not been online for a few months now and does not have the latest update. Not played any wave 4 games yet and everything is run through abgx before burning and have never played anything before release date. Think i will keep my box offline until the new liteon firmware is out and we have a better understanding of the reasons for the bans.

Was it not the same last year at this time though? Boosting xmas sales?

#1200953 by unknown[9089] at 2009-11-10 10:23:49 (3 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report]Top

yes it was, I was banned around this time last year.

not getting a new 360 until January now so I should get just under a year on live before they do it all over again lol

#1200973 by EarwigDonor (VIP) at 2009-11-10 11:54:21 (3 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report]Top

Also people saying now that they may be able to detect if the 360 drive has been powered up without the sata cable connected to the 360 motherboard, so although they cannont detect the firmware they can see that it's been disconnected, most likely to be flashed.

#1200974 by Tonyrw22 (User) at 2009-11-10 12:03:35 (3 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report]Top

Earwig wrote:

Also people saying now that they may be able to detect if the 360 drive has been powered up without the sata cable connected to the 360 motherboard, so although they cannont detect the firmware they can see that it's been disconnected, most likely to be flashed.

they can't ban anyone cause of that cause they need to be sure.. its more likely that they have found out a way to read some parts of the firmware and see if its original or patched..

#1201000 by unknown[9089] at 2009-11-10 12:44:35 (3 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report]Top

there is only one person I would actually listen too and that's c4eva, he still says the firmware is not being detected and its most likely bad use of abgx and/or bad rips.

#1201010 by remyxx87Donor (Power User) at 2009-11-10 13:06:56 (3 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report]Top

luckily I stayed behind the scenes for a few months now.
Only gave Forza 3 a go a few days ago, kinda made me a bit paranoid need to check
if I can login later :lol:
I hope a  new ix(liteon) comes out in next few weeks.

#1201119 by unknown[24504] at 2009-11-10 16:45:51 (3 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report]Top

I read that microsoft fixed something a couple a months ago so that if you move your harddrive from a banned console to a new one, your gamertag will go corrupt and wipe your savegames. Thing is, my console was banned on the first wave (April 2007) and the only update to the console since then was with my retail forza 3. Now i'm pondering about buying a new elite and keep it clean, but will my gamesave be okay or should i buy a mem card for backup?

#1201282 by ConsoleKingDonor (Power User) at 2009-11-10 21:44:43 (3 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report]Top

C4Eva announced he's working on a new firmware on IRC:

"[c4eva] new fw in dev/test - ixtreme LT (Lite Touch) - more efficient , minimal patching , all aspects of fw indistinguisable from orig, no more bans, No ETA!"

We do not have more details atm.
As far as we know the 3 'test boxes' C4Eva has running are still fine (not banned).
So there's NO ETA for the firmware yet (dont ask) but it should come out for Lite-On drives first.

News-Source: #fw@EFNet

#1201311 by wardukeDonor (Power User) at 2009-11-10 22:51:57 (3 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report]Top

Only thing I would like a hard drive install restored on my banned elite lol.  Be nice if I could just down grade the OS, and than upgrade it again to restore it.

#1201361 by Kichu182 (User) at 2009-11-11 01:42:46 (3 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report]Top

So he's developing the fw for lit-on, but i'm on hitachi.
I'm pretty sure 1.61 isnt out for hitachi.

should i just hold tight?

#1201536 by wardukeDonor (Power User) at 2009-11-11 19:25:58 (3 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report]Top

stay away from all of it until the newer Lite version comes out..  The patch at the end of October allows M$ to read your firmware.  1.61 won't save you..  If you updated in October and are not banned yet, unplug the cable from your xbox.  Though, just because you are not banned now does not mean that you are not on the list.  They are not banning everyone at one time..

Just unplug your xbox ethernet cable.  You can use 360WavesPatcher to downgrade wave 4 to wave 3.

#1201601 by Kichu182 (User) at 2009-11-11 21:57:57 (3 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report]Top

Ihavent been online in so long, my xbox still has the old dashboard! :lol:

#1201655 by goofyladDonor (User) at 2009-11-12 00:50:15 (3 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report]Top

warduke wrote:

stay away from all of it until the newer Lite version comes out..  The patch at the end of October allows M$ to read your firmware.  1.61 won't save you..  If you updated in October and are not banned yet, unplug the cable from your xbox.  Though, just because you are not banned now does not mean that you are not on the list.  They are not banning everyone at one time..

Just unplug your xbox ethernet cable.  You can use 360WavesPatcher to downgrade wave 4 to wave 3.

according to c4va the FW can't be detected

and tbh i agree with him, never played a game early never played an unverified game and haven't used any of this wave 4 bootdisk crap and am still not banned

#1201674 by iNViSiBiLiTY (User) at 2009-11-12 01:58:12 (3 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report]Top

I've never even been online with mine, so I guess I'm safe. :smirk:

#1201715 by wardukeDonor (Power User) at 2009-11-12 04:37:46 (3 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report]Top

goofylad wrote:

warduke wrote:

stay away from all of it until the newer Lite version comes out..  The patch at the end of October allows M$ to read your firmware.  1.61 won't save you..  If you updated in October and are not banned yet, unplug the cable from your xbox.  Though, just because you are not banned now does not mean that you are not on the list.  They are not banning everyone at one time..

Just unplug your xbox ethernet cable.  You can use 360WavesPatcher to downgrade wave 4 to wave 3.  (only do this if already banned though)

according to c4va the FW can't be detected

and tbh i agree with him, never played a game early never played an unverified game and haven't used any of this wave 4 bootdisk crap and am still not banned

Me too, and yet here I am sitting on my "ban"ister.

According to what I have read now, the last patch allowed them to see the firmware change.  c4va is building a new firmware from the ground up because of it..

#1201886 by unknown[387103] at 2009-11-12 16:50:41 (3 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report]Top

Hello i was wondering what is needed to be done to a Xbox 360 in order to play the downloaded games from here?. Is it a chip or is it something else?

Thanks

#1201912 by goofyladDonor (User) at 2009-11-12 18:07:36 (3 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report]Top

warduke wrote:

goofylad wrote:

warduke wrote:

stay away from all of it until the newer Lite version comes out..  The patch at the end of October allows M$ to read your firmware.  1.61 won't save you..  If you updated in October and are not banned yet, unplug the cable from your xbox.  Though, just because you are not banned now does not mean that you are not on the list.  They are not banning everyone at one time..

Just unplug your xbox ethernet cable.  You can use 360WavesPatcher to downgrade wave 4 to wave 3.  (only do this if already banned though)

according to c4va the FW can't be detected

and tbh i agree with him, never played a game early never played an unverified game and haven't used any of this wave 4 bootdisk crap and am still not banned

Me too, and yet here I am sitting on my "ban"ister.

According to what I have read now, the last patch allowed them to see the firmware change.  c4va is building a new firmware from the ground up because of it..

just double checked the FW isn't detectiable! but the way it reads games is different from original FW's (whether that was since an update or something) but its the way it reads disks not the FW thats detectiable

#1201930 by iNViSiBiLiTY (User) at 2009-11-12 18:49:33 (3 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report]Top

aidan066 wrote:

Hello i was wondering what is needed to be done to a Xbox 360 in order to play the downloaded games from here?. Is it a chip or is it something else?

Thanks

You need to have the firmware updated on the DVD-Rom of your Xbox360. If you didn't know that, you probably won't know how to do it yourself.

#1202283 by goofyladDonor (User) at 2009-11-13 20:07:15 (3 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report]Top

just to warn people L4D2 is the 1st wave 5 game confirmed

#1202722 by NexerDonor (Power User) at 2009-11-15 01:31:03 (3 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report]Top

Banned today...

Haven't been online for a week or so. You win some you loose some

Always played after release date and ABGX360 check before and after burning.

#1206744 by remyxx87Donor (Power User) at 2009-11-24 23:06:46 (3 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report]Top

so one of the latest tweets says that the new LT FW
""
Note: backups need to have SplitVid from now on to be safe for LT
""
taken from
http://twitter.com/TeamJungle

So if you didn't splitvid with abgx on your current games and once you updated to LT FW
the games won't work I presume?
So some of the games in my collection will be frisbees?

#1207231 by ROCKmyJOCKzDonor (Power User) at 2009-11-26 01:38:06 (3 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report]Top

remyxx87 wrote:

so one of the latest tweets says that the new LT FW
""
Note: backups need to have SplitVid from now on to be safe for LT
""
taken from
http://twitter.com/TeamJungle

So if you didn't splitvid with abgx on your current games and once you updated to LT FW
the games won't work I presume?
So some of the games in my collection will be frisbees?

m8 from what i understand, MS's activation of AP 2.5 (anti piracy 2.5) causes iX to respond differently to what the original should (yes iX is detectable). The new iX LT will be removing all the fancy code and stripping down to bare minimum, to look and respond more like the original. Not sure if TeamJungle are removing all stealth checks from iX (pretty sure they are), and leaving stealth to the end user. We'll just have to wait and see.

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