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#1169195 by RohitDonor (Power User) at 2009-08-09 05:33:26 (3 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report]Top

Viiksne wrote:


Rohit wrote:

they dont need a nerf, feral druids need a nerf

How so.  I dont play one but i havent run into a problem with them yet..

they top dps meters in 25m raids

Last edited by Rohit at 2009-08-09 06:12:15

#1169227 by Snuffsis (Power User) at 2009-08-09 11:03:31 (3 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report]Top

yea, Feral druids are fucking insane when it comes to DPS, i always see them at 5k minim (10 mans) and at 25man they even get 6.5 - 7k dps.

#1169837 by CDNeh69 (User) at 2009-08-10 21:37:45 (3 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report]Top

Never seen a feral druid up there yet..  Highest i always see in the 10 mans is Hunters...

New gear looks like crap.. ive seen some locks rolling in the stuff from TBC and it looks way better then the junk i have on now...


Anyone ever tried that Dugi's Daily Guide thing?  I heard about it from a buddy and downloaded it to try it out but it doesnt work with 3.2
Anyone tried it?  Its the 25 Daily in game walk thru..

#1170010 by CrazyGorila (Power User) at 2009-08-11 08:03:09 (3 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report]Top

CDNeh69 wrote:

Never seen a feral druid up there yet..  Highest i always see in the 10 mans is Hunters...

New gear looks like crap.. ive seen some locks rolling in the stuff from TBC and it looks way better then the junk i have on now...


Anyone ever tried that Dugi's Daily Guide thing?  I heard about it from a buddy and downloaded it to try it out but it doesnt work with 3.2
Anyone tried it?  Its the 25 Daily in game walk thru..

well the gear right now looks crap cause Icecrown Citadel will have 31 bosses according to GC. 90% of their art dev's are working thier asses on that, not to mention the other departments.
As for hunters, unfortunatlly we are never on top of the meters, or we should not be on top of the meters if you have rogues, warlocks, druids and mages in the raid that know what they are doing.

#1170147 by CDNeh69 (User) at 2009-08-11 17:53:31 (3 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report]Top

I did 25m Uld. Last night with some guildies and the top 2 dpsers were Hunters.  Followed by a warlock, rouge and another lock.

Im not that geared, so i was about half way down the list but i still pulled 4.2k.  Im full destro in raid, and the 2 guys who beat be were about equal gear but Demo to Felguard then destruction.

I know my rotation maxes out top dps, but the burst pulls aggro so i have to always wait.  thinking about switching to the demo/destruction build to see if it works better, cause i think my  dps should be a lot higher.

#1170443 by Chill (Power User) at 2009-08-12 12:46:06 (3 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report]Top

well, i'm having right the hard troubble to get into groups when i'm mutilated specc and I always drop rediculus low amount of dps on bosses. Think around 1.2-1.3k. Does anyone have a good pve speccbuild for rogues and the rotation for it, couse i'm sick and tired being laughed at, and I did more dps on the same rogue in tbc :<

#1170830 by CDNeh69 (User) at 2009-08-13 04:05:44 (3 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report]Top

Chill wrote:

well, i'm having right the hard troubble to get into groups when i'm mutilated specc and I always drop rediculus low amount of dps on bosses. Think around 1.2-1.3k. Does anyone have a good pve speccbuild for rogues and the rotation for it, couse i'm sick and tired being laughed at, and I did more dps on the same rogue in tbc :<

Start here:

http://www.wowhead.com/?forums&topi … p;p=945040

I dont know much about rouges.. all i know is if im not careful and on the ball they destroy me..
Hope that helped.

#1171079 by Aldron (Power User) at 2009-08-13 20:09:11 (3 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report]Top

Anyone playing at EU realm Shattered Hand?

#1171160 by RohitDonor (Power User) at 2009-08-13 23:28:04 (3 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report]Top

Chill wrote:

well, i'm having right the hard troubble to get into groups when i'm mutilated specc and I always drop rediculus low amount of dps on bosses. Think around 1.2-1.3k. Does anyone have a good pve speccbuild for rogues and the rotation for it, couse i'm sick and tired being laughed at, and I did more dps on the same rogue in tbc :<

http://shadowpanther.net/

spec http://www.wowhead.com/?talent#f0eb0xZM … u0xRtx:hfN

basic rotation

garotte > snd > ss till 5 > rupture > ss till  5 > snd(you can also do snd before rupture if you're low geared and snd is almost wearing off) > ss till 4 evisc > ss till 5 if rupture/snd is about to expire if not use evisc again

extremely easy rotation and throw in a killing spree when your on low energy ect

#1171170 by CDNeh69 (User) at 2009-08-14 00:00:04 (3 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report]Top

Rohit,

Thanks for the info! My buddy just hit 80 on a rouge..   I passed the info on to him...

#1171239 by ViiksneDonor (TB's SC2 Wizard) at 2009-08-14 04:46:11 (3 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report]Top

Quit WoW...again, now waiting for Aion to hit my front door ^_^

Im pretty certain I wont play WoW anymore, the game has just sunk since vanilla

#1171290 by Chill (Power User) at 2009-08-14 11:30:46 (3 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report]Top

Thanks Rohit, tryed it last night and it worked pretty good. Just need a little more gear and i'm ready to rock

Also Viiksne, I love how short minded people are and how simply people forget the flaws of vanilla wow. I.e The only chanse to compete in pvp was to eather camp ab/wsg with a premade for 12-14 hours a day, or be in a right good raiding guild getting pve gear.

Getting one shotted by pom pyro mages, or getting stunlocked (the actuall stunlock not the omgcheapshotkidneyshot lock we have now) from 100% to 0 without being able to do a shit.Tier gear only avible for one specc, the PAIN of 40man raid ect ect.

Also love that everytime a new mmo hits the market the bandwagon jumps to that and saying "wow is doomed im going dark and light/ war/ darkfall/ aion/ age of conan/ lotro" and so on, and just to return a cupple of weeks/months later to say, damn that game sucked, t's was to imbalanced, pvp was crap blablabla. We all heard it before damn it!

#1171374 by h0ran (Power User) at 2009-08-14 17:06:50 (3 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report]Top

http://elitistjerks.com/f78/t37183-pock … ted_3_1_a/

that would be the thread to use as a rogue for pve. i pull around 7.3k dps in my current gear as a mutilate rogue

#1171783 by Snuffsis (Power User) at 2009-08-15 21:29:29 (3 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report]Top

http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php

New rumours and some facts about the upcoming expansion, some of it seems pretty sweet, except the cairne dying and thrall leaving horde in Garrosh's hands.

#1171933 by RohitDonor (Power User) at 2009-08-16 03:06:25 (3 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report]Top

source: ^
edit: NOT EVERYTHING IS CONFIRMED

World of Warcraft: Cataclysm is the next expansion for World of Warcraft. Dark and forgotten threats that have long stayed out of sight have finally arrived on our shores, unleashing a cataclysmic event upon Azeroth and now preparing more nefarius plans to take it back.

Level Cap
The level cap in the next expansion will be slightly lower than expected this time around; 85.

This suggests Blizzard wants more room for expansions before hitting the level 100 cap. With less leveling to do (along with the revamped leveling listed below likely to increase the speed and ease of leveling), leveling a new race remains appealing for new and existing players alike.

Leveling from 80-85 should be a much bigger deal, the idea is to make sure that gaining a level really means something and doesn't make you feel like you just have 4 more levels to go.

New Classes
Cataclysm doesn't introduce any new classes to the game. Instead, Blizzard have offered more race and classes combinations to players. The Some of these have alreadly been datamined from the 3.2.2 Test Realms. The An Injured Colleague quest and it's new Night Elf counter-part help to introduce the lore for these new race and class combinations, so we can probably expect to see more of these for some of the less traditional ones.

    * Human Hunter
    * Orc Mage
    * Night Elf Mage
    * Dwarf Mage
    * Blood Elf Warrior
    * Dwarf Shaman
    * Undead Hunter
    * Tauren Paladin
    * Tauren Priest
    * Gnome Priest
    * Troll Druid



New Races
The events of the cataclysm has caused two new races to seek new allies. The Goblins for the Horde and the Worgen for the Alliance.

Goblins
Deathwing once again sought the services of the goblins, as slaves. Unable to refuse such an offer, the goblins were enslaved by him. A large group have resisted however. With their previous homes devastated by the cataclysm, they escaping to an island off the coast of The Barrens. As they strive to recover, they come across an Orc captured on an Alliance ship and rescue him. The Orc turns out to be none other than Thrall himself, and in return offers the Goblins a place within the Horde. These events are carried out in a quest line, allowing players to experience first-hand the reasons behind the Goblins' shift from neutrality.

Worgen
The cataclysm has cracked open the Greymane Wall, finally revealing what has happened to the kingdom of Gilneas and its citizens. With the Worgen curse taken hold, they have found a partial cure, allowing thme to retain their Human minds even when transformed. Venturing forth from Gilneas and seeking help from the Alliance, they have decided to join them, to combat the new threats of Cataclysm.

Gilneas will make extensive use of the phasing system (much like the Death Knight starting area), to show what happened while the kingdom was cut off from the rest of the world and lead up to present day.

Worgens will have two forms, a Worgen form and a Human form. Players will be able to customise the look of both forms.

New Content
Cataclysm will be the first expansion not to introduce a new continent, instead making use of previously unreleased zones and revamping existing ones.

Classic Azeroth Revamp
A cataclysmic event caused by Deathwing and Azshara will change the face of Azeroth as we know it. Most of the new content for Cataclysm will take the form of a revamped Azeroth, taking advantage of newer additions to WoW such as phasing and daily quests. Most of the quests and mobs in the classic zones will also be redesigned to make leveling less painful. With the revamp, a greater narritive and sense progression will be offered to players. Some zones and dungeons will change drastically to fit this, e.g.,

    * The Barrens will be split into two separate zones of two different level bands.
    * Azshara will become a low level (~10-20) zone.
    * Some of the zones like the Thousand Needles will be flooded.
    * Durotar is wrecked and apparently Orgrimmar could be destroyed. A new Orc city is rebuilt over the course of the expansion.
    * Gnomeregan will be part of the expansion as well and gnomes might be able to reclaim their capital. (The last part is still unconfirmed)
    * Wailing Caverns will be become a lush tropical area as a result of the druid's magic.
    * The Blackrock Spire will erupt and a new version of Blackrock Mountains will be available, apparently Ragnaros will be back too.


In the aftermath of the cataclysm, and the new conflicts on the horizon relief efforts can be found in many zones and new open PvP areas similar to Lake Wintergrasp.

Flying in Azeroth
Part of the redesign of the Eastern Kingdoms and Kalimdor is the introduction of flying to the two continents, allowing access to many new areas and quicker travelling across the large continents.

Classic Dungeon Revamp
Redesigning Onyxia's Lair in Patch 3.2.2 was just the first step. As most of the leveling will take place in revamped areas of Azeroth, so too will the dungeons, allowing players to use them to level from 80 to 85.

Unreleased Zones & Dungeons
With the addition of flying mounts to Kalimdor and the Eastern Kingdoms and the redesign of many zones, most of the previously unreachable or incomplete zones will now be made available to players. This is where most of the new content from 80 to 85 will take place. Some of these are,

    * Hyjal (present)
    * Gilneas - The Worgen starting Zone.
    * Uldum


It is unclear if the old Goblin locations such as Kezan and Undermine will be included in Cataclyms with the revelation of the goblins' plight, but several new islands have also been risen from the seas by the events of Cataclysm, some on the backs of giant sea turtles and whales, with the addition of several underwater zones.

Characters and Events

Deathwing
Deathwing the Destroyer / Neltharion the Earth-Warder will play a major role in Cataclysm. Having been driven mad by Old God whisperings and turning against his own kind only to be fail in his attempts, Deathwing has sunk into the shadows. While the Horde and the Alliance were busy fighting back the Burning Legion only to then be beset with the Scourge, he has been lurking and moving things into place. After Lady Sinestra's failed attempts to create a Twilight Dragonflight, he again retreated to Grim Batol and succeeded where she failed. With his results seen in the Obsidian Sanctum, he has finally created the supreme Dragonflight he sought and plans to unleash it upon the world. But what of the Old Gods' sway over him?

Azshara
Queen Azshara will also play a major part in Cataclysm. Unknown to many mortal races, long forgotten by others, and believe to be dead by her own kind, she has not been dormant in depths of the Maelstrom. Having those around her transformed by the Old Gods into Naga after her failure in the War of the Ancients, she has become far more powerful and a greater threat than she once was. Not content with just Nazjatar and the depths of the sea, Azshara seeks to reclaim power and reign once again. With the true plan behind Lady Vashj's support of Illidan remaining a mystery we do not know what hand Azshara has yet played. The big question remains, is she now serving her "saviors", the Old Gods?

The Cataclysm
I'm still not sure who is the true end boss of Cataclysm is, but the cataclysm appears to have been caused by attempts to incantation to summon extremely powerful beings using an ancient incantation by Deathwing and Azshara. They're both very powerful, but the cataclysm itself suggests something more powerful is behind it, perhaps their shared past of Old God influence?

The Guardian of Tirisfal
Malfurion Stormrage will be returning to Azeroth to aid in the creation of the new Guardian of Tirisfal - Thrall! Med'an's role in these events is currently unknown.

The New (New) Horde
Thrall will hand over the leadership of the Horde to Garrosh Hellscream, while he serves as a coordinator for both the Horde and Alliance forces in and effort to combat the new threat of the Naga and Black Dragonflight. Without Thrall to keep Garrosh in check, he declares open war on the Alliance. In the political upheaval Cairne Bloodhoof is implicated as a traitor to the Horde and murdered by Garrosh. Cairne's son Baine takes over as the new Tauren chieftan. This could explain why Baine was removed from the game in Patch 3.2.2, you can find more information about this in Ahmo Thunderhorn - replacement for Baine Bloodhoof?

Last edited by Rohit at 2009-08-16 03:54:21

#1172097 by makubex (Power User) at 2009-08-16 14:52:24 (3 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report]Top

This sounds...fucked up.

#1172688 by unknown[369125] at 2009-08-17 22:20:07 (3 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report]Top

Copying this directly from another thread.

If there are still people who think the "leaked" info is true, let me put together some evidence and speculation why the article is a big fake.

Blues confirmed...
they do not plan revamping Azeroth,
http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/threa … mp;sid=1#1
they won't be making Azeroth flight free,
http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.htm … p;sid=1#10
or giving gnomes healers.
http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/threa … mp;sid=1#3

This was in last month, recently. I doubt they'd put up something in such a short notice, or clearly lie into the face of customers. Blues said this stuff will not happen anytime soon.

Also, Thousand Needles flooding with water, speculation from the Ulduar screenshot - that does not show the future, flooding Azeroth, it shows THE PAST, back when the canyon (Thousand Needles) and the lake (Shimmering flats) was full of water. Isn't it odd nothing is missing from eastern Barrens or Tanaris, both so low lands? Fake again.

All new class combinations are ridiculous and most of them had not even a hint in the lore before. (Tauren paladins?) Nor does Blizz have any reason to put them in. Even stuff like Dwarven shamans that did happen the lore before are wrong, because it's the Ironforge dwarves in the Alliance, not the Wildhammers, that had shamans. Making Wildhammers start a continent away from their homeland would be ridiculous, as are all the new combinations. Fake again.

Barrens being two zones, that's why the new zeppelin: It was only done because the very tiring run for Horde. Think of it as our SW Harbour, it just saves time. Fake again.

And if you think with clear head, Blizzcon is near, people hunger for information, so MMO-champion put up a duck article with ridiculous stuff to attract people who ,,What the f--? I must check that!" and visit the site. And they reached their goal, seeing so much people already taking an internet article as solid cash.
MMO-champion claims to "have reliable sources", which just proves that this is fake.

Articles are not half-fake. The whole article is a big duck. We'll probably get goblin and worgen on whichever side, but that's it.

Don't believe everything you read on the internet. <The More You Know title tune>

face cataclysm is fake.

#1172696 by RohitDonor (Power User) at 2009-08-17 22:30:33 (3 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report]Top

@Tjallarick9

Boubouille has never disappointed me before so i believe around 95% of what hes saying is true.

in fact i believe Boubouille even over a blue poster because blue posters are usually the ones that change opinions every 2 weeks (pointing at gc's lies)

boubouille wrote:


And I think that's it, everything else was from my own personal work and is data gathered from multiple sources over the last month.

Just lay down the pitchforks for the moment, the Blizzcon is only in 4 days and you'll have the rest of the year to laugh at me if what I posted is indeed wrong, there are enough french jokes in the world to do that. For the moment it's just a pre-Blizzcon leak, we have them each year and you should be used to it by now.

Of course, each year, a lot of sites are wrong and I could be one of them. Nothing of what I posted was confirmed or commented by Blizzard.

he also said himself that he could be completely wrong, hes not saying that hes telling the confirmed truth

Last edited by Rohit at 2009-08-17 23:17:59

#1172980 by Sawyer (Power User) at 2009-08-18 17:58:49 (3 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report]Top

I stopped reading mmo-champion after I noticed that Boubouille's posts were copied from SomethingAwful Forums..

#1173151 by unknown[369125] at 2009-08-19 01:00:13 (3 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report]Top

Rohit wrote:


in fact i believe Boubouille even over a blue poster

no

#1173200 by RohitDonor (Power User) at 2009-08-19 06:04:22 (3 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report]Top

Tjallarick9 wrote:

Rohit wrote:


in fact i believe Boubouille even over a blue poster

no

I think I know best what I believe and what not.

edit: and you contradict most of your own theorys on why cataclysm is all a big lie, because at the end of the post you say "but well prolly have worgen and goblins on whichever side" while this event is connected to the cataclysmic event, which is all a big lie according to you

Last edited by Rohit at 2009-08-19 06:10:36

#1173250 by unknown[8443] at 2009-08-19 10:43:57 (3 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report]Top

Tjallarick9 wrote:

Rohit wrote:


in fact i believe Boubouille even over a blue poster

no

we'll know how right or wrong he was this weekend anyways.

#1173354 by Snuffsis (Power User) at 2009-08-19 17:27:13 (3 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report]Top

Tjallarick none of those blues you listed clearly and outright DENY ANY possible changes.
The gnome healers he said "CURRENTLY not iinterested" doesnt mean that they will look to a source of light with the coming disaster during the cataclysm.

Changing azeroth isnt for any PATCH, this cataclysm is an expansion and can contain ALOT more revamping and enough to make this happen.

Same with free flight, they are thinking about it and it might happen in the expansion.

Also ,tauren paladins is true to the lore, just go in-game and do the quest, An Injured Colleague, recently added in the game, and the druids of the tauren society talk about the light, and how its not that strange for autrens to follow it since their Night Elven brethren (druids) do it.

There are ALOT of hints pointing towards this.

And why would the maps in ulduar show an azeroth in the middle of its existance? (at the beginning it was all one big continent) its more like it to show the future, since Algalon will have to be able to analyze and see if it needs cleansing and reprogramming.

Anyway, i have bought tickets for blizzcon stream so i am gonna watch it and see what they say.

Last edited by Snuffsis at 2009-08-19 17:35:39

#1173860 by unknown[297202] at 2009-08-20 20:42:10 (3 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report]Top

Aldron wrote:

Anyone playing at EU realm Shattered Hand?

Ye, i do :d

Horde ofc

#1173976 by unknown[317476] at 2009-08-21 05:09:50 (3 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report]Top

Why not just wait after the holiday then they release the official ideas of what gonna happen with wow, ( and upcoming stufs for D3 and SC2 =)) personally i think  it gonna make game like any other game intresting from start and then downhill... but it aint always like this so either u like or u hate it. But they add Onyxia lvl 80 encounter, wich is really sweet! Been playing this game since 2006 so its like old memories that getting back. So thats gonna be nice. Can't wait for it actually. =)

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