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#1096977 by unknown[258103] at 2009-03-01 08:13:23 (4 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report] Kpoof wrote: So which spec is best for solo-play AND 5-man instances DPSing and/or occasional tanking for DKs? At level 55+ you will have to do instances to obtain proper gear, so there'll be alot of DPsing. Unholy is best for DPSing. Unholy is best for soloing, Unholy is second best for tanking. CDNeh69 wrote: Ive been doing pretty damn good in PvP with my Warlock.  He is only LvL 62..  And i dont get killed in seconds...  Great in Duals, I was thinking more of Arena PvP..  But i can see what you mean about cast times...  I Dont think DoT's in Arena would be too good... I'll admit..  I'm a "Clicker"  I havent figured out how the hell im supposed to move with the WADS keys, click on the 1-9's and manage the mouse...  Though clicking with my Arena DK has worked so far.. LoL..  butid love to fgure it out so i dont have to..  Suggestions? Use right mouse button while moving mouse to turn around. Then bind every button you have around WS to a ability or action bar. Then bind every button again but with CTRL and ALT. Voila you have all abilities binded and wont waste 1 second on each global cooldown moving the mouse around and you will be able to use all your abilites and be able to turn around much faster. #1097018 by VgEe99 (User) at 2009-03-01 12:04:18 (4 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report] Some people own in torrents some in games, deal with it haha. But don't ya'll think rogues are nerfed as hell, dont even bother to play wow anymore since DK's and Warriors overall rape me.. #1097381 by CDNeh69 (User) at 2009-03-02 01:37:22 (4 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report] Relur wrote: Use right mouse button while moving mouse to turn around. Then bind every button you have around WS to a ability or action bar. Then bind every button again but with CTRL and ALT. Voila you have all abilities binded and wont waste 1 second on each global cooldown moving the mouse around and you will be able to use all your abilites and be able to turn around much faster. Ill have to give that a try..  Right now i just have the 80 DK that i PvP with..  This could help out a bit more..   Im still working up the Warlock..  I dont know if i will stick to Affliction or try out Destruction..  Im pretty sure Affliction would be better in raids...  But i donno.. I dont see many of them around on our server anymore. #1097406 by slacker4life (Power User) at 2009-03-02 04:04:40 (4 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report] movement: wasd + mouse turn combat keybinds: 1-6 r t f z alt q alt w alt f tab ` alt 1 alt 2 f1 f4 mouse button 1 mouse button 2 mouse button 3 middle mouse mouse up mouse down alt mouse up alt mouse down shift 1 shift 2 and i click 4 abilities that i use rarely. #1097487 by unknown[329797] at 2009-03-02 12:07:16 (4 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report] slacker4life wrote: movement: wasd + mouse turn combat keybinds: 1-6 r t f z alt q alt w alt f tab ` alt 1 alt 2 f1 f4 mouse button 1 mouse button 2 mouse button 3 middle mouse mouse up mouse down alt mouse up alt mouse down shift 1 shift 2 and i click 4 abilities that i use rarely. Hmm.. Wow. I'm just using 1 - 0 and F1 - F12, works perfectly, every key reachable and never wasting a millisecond on moving the hand (since you know what to do next). By the way, CDNeh I went for unholy, but I did scholomance yesterday with 2 other friends and couldn't help but notice that my threatmeter was through the roof. They always suddenly attack me when I use Death Strike and a couple of other disease-spells. #1097493 by LiquidAir (Power User) at 2009-03-02 12:24:21 (4 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report] Are locks really not that good in pvp/arena's? Just asking. I have a Demo Lock, and i consistently come in 2nd place with dmg over-all in battlegrounds. The only thing i have problems with is Rogues that stunlock me (altho lifeblood helps alot) Last edited by LiquidAir at 2009-03-02 12:24:51 #1097512 by unknown[329797] at 2009-03-02 13:23:07 (4 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report] Warlocks as said are spellcasters which get sliced up in a matter of seconds while they cast a spell. If a warrior attacks them, the warrior will stun them for 3 seconds with intercept, abort their first spell with pummel and in the meantime kill the lock. So no go. #1097645 by CDNeh69 (User) at 2009-03-02 19:32:57 (4 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report] Kpoof wrote: By the way, CDNeh I went for unholy, but I did scholomance yesterday with 2 other friends and couldn't help but notice that my threatmeter was through the roof. They always suddenly attack me when I use Death Strike and a couple of other disease-spells. Make sure you are NOT in Frost Presence...  If you are, you will easily pull aggro off the MT and get your ass handed to you if your not careful or Tank Spec.  other then that, i dont see why you would pull aggro unless you are attacking something the MT has no Aggo on..  Time to get a better tank maybe?! LiquidAir wrote: Are locks really not that good in pvp/arena's? Just asking. I have a Demo Lock, and i consistently come in 2nd place with dmg over-all in battlegrounds. The only thing i have problems with is Rogues that stunlock me (altho lifeblood helps alot) Instances and PvP are two TOTALLY different things..  Locks can usually head towards the top of the DPS in a lot of Instances/Raids if they play their cards right. In PvP yes, they are "Glass Cannons" like mages..  can deal good damage, but can die quick..  Hit and run..  Kiting is a must. Kpoof wrote: Warlocks as said are spellcasters which get sliced up in a matter of seconds while they cast a spell. If a warrior attacks them, the warrior will stun them for 3 seconds with intercept, abort their first spell with pummel and in the meantime kill the lock. So no go. IF you let them get close enough.. then yes, a lock can get smoked in seconds..  As for the Stuns, PvP trinkets are a must.. My lock is 64.  Yesterday when i was 63 i killed a 65 Warrior with Ease.  First time i DoT and feared..  he was flagged, i was a dick and attacked him..  1 min left in my PvP timer i was killing Mobs and he jumped me, i think he charged.  Because i knew i was flagged i now had my Succubus out(had imp before).  Silenced, Loaded up on DoT's, haunt and UA.  Sb when it procc'ed and he was dead.  Other then his initial charge he didn't even hit me. I have no idea how Warlocks hold up in 80 PvP..  With Dual Specc's coming next patch ill likely be Affliction for Raids and Destruction for PvP. #1097883 by Calidus (Power User) at 2009-03-03 09:30:40 (4 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report] On a more competitive level, arena statistics show that this season Paladins, Surv Hunters, Resto Shamans and DK's have got a good thing going for them. Remember there are 10 classes, so ideally every class would have a 10% representation. I play with a Haunt/SL lock, and we just broke 2k rating this week. Here's our team: armory link. We're in PvE gear and specs, so no comments on that please. It's been slow as I'm a resto druid and every other team we face has a DK happily removing my HoT's without penalty (a Lifebloom stack doesn't bloom). As for him, once Sudden Death Executes, Mutilates and Arcane mages were brought in line, with 800 resilience he's pretty good at surviving and also amazing at killing holy Paladins (again, every other team has one). PvP isn't balanced around 1v1 and you can't generalize it by saying "oh if the Rogue gets the opener, I always lose". Of course you're gonna lose 1v1 vs a Rogue, that's what the Rogue class is all about: cheap kills. Teamwise, a lock is still pretty strong, what with his ability to DoT everyone in sight and fear/Spell Lock when an opportunity arises. Their pets are still squishy with no resilience bonus granted to them, but at least it's no longer a case where they die in 3 secs since Blizzard increased their health pool a while back. The problems locks have compared to Mages is that they only have Fear and Teleport as a defensive measure. Many more classes now have ways to break fear. Overall, I'd say that just looking at lock representation in the top arena teams, they're okay - not Flavor of the Month or anything, but doing rather well on their own. Resto druids, man, that's another story... But I'd rather not get into that discussion here. #1097893 by unknown[258103] at 2009-03-03 10:09:50 (4 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report] Calidus wrote: Remember there are 10 classes, so ideally every class would have a 10% representation. In a hockey game there is 6 people on on the field and only 3 classes so 2 of them should be goalies. The logic that all classes should have equal percentage on represented arena is just plain wrong on every level unless you are a utter retard. Some specs/classes don't have 3 trees that works in PVP. Take warriors for an example they have only 2 trees that should be viable for PVP. Arms and Fury while Protection should be the PVE tree. So in a balanced arena there should be 1/3 less warriors than druids for an example. But that is not the end there is alot more to it. Like different trees always beeing better than another. So classes like rogues with 3 trees that should be equally balanced will always have one or two different specs that it better than the 3rd in every situation no matter if this has to do anything with easier gameplay or surperior play. Like season 2 rogues most rogues was AR/Prep because it was the easiest spec and would give you a 2k raiting but nothing more. The best rogues was mutilate but it was alot harder to play. So in the end not every class should, would or could have 10% representation because if they did some classes would be surperior to the others. #1098014 by Calidus (Power User) at 2009-03-03 14:14:28 (4 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report] Fair enough. I just wanted to point out how the current situation favors Holy and Retri Paladins, Surv Hunters and Resto Shamans so much so, that they represent 75% of high rated teams. #1098273 by unknown[344671] at 2009-03-03 23:03:58 (4 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report] Kpoof wrote: slacker4life wrote: movement: wasd + mouse turn combat keybinds: 1-6 r t f z alt q alt w alt f tab ` alt 1 alt 2 f1 f4 mouse button 1 mouse button 2 mouse button 3 middle mouse mouse up mouse down alt mouse up alt mouse down shift 1 shift 2 and i click 4 abilities that i use rarely. Hmm.. Wow. I'm just using 1 - 0 and F1 - F12, works perfectly, every key reachable and never wasting a millisecond on moving the hand (since you know what to do next). By the way, CDNeh I went for unholy, but I did scholomance yesterday with 2 other friends and couldn't help but notice that my threatmeter was through the roof. They always suddenly attack me when I use Death Strike and a couple of other disease-spells. When I was playing semi-competitive arena with my druid at 70, I moved my movement keys to ESDF, which left A and Q open for my ring finger to hit for more abilities. Takes a little while to get used to, especially since it takes your left hand off the normal typing position (so when I started to type to reply to something or in guild chat for example), but the extra fraction of a second to hit a root or cyclone was well worth it. #1098648 by unknown[322849] at 2009-03-04 20:40:39 (4 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report] Hey!                I was wondering if someone needs a good WOW server I have 2:   1: wow.ultimate.ro it's a high rate server(get good experience),but u have to work hard for the Items!   2: wow.fnet.ro  it's a fun server PERFECT for PVP-ing nice GM's, but not so populated......YET!!! Astoneshing items!                                          I will be waiting for those who want to join(PM)                the 2nd server is better! trust me #1098766 by unknown[329797] at 2009-03-05 01:02:55 (4 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report] Now that's brutal advertising Anyway, CDNeh, about the warrior/lock thing, the player you played against was in that case a very bad player. No idea why he didn't charge and stun you. Warriors have a block against all fear type spells, berserker rage. Makes you immune and gain like 31 rage instantly which is enough to charge (intercept you) and stun you. So don't get too hyped Watched my friend again in naxx heroic today, their best DPS in his guild was a fury warrior with an average of 6000 DPS. Friend is warlock destruction-specced and has only about 4800 which just proves that warriors are way over the top if you play them right and have good gear. However, they will rebalance the warriors and DKS in the next patch, so I guess this won't matter anymore. #1098795 by CDNeh69 (User) at 2009-03-05 04:21:38 (4 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report] Kpoof, I agree..  it all depends on the person you play against..  This guy tried..  and his way to kill me was to call in 3 LvL 80's then run around flagged and HOPE i would attack him with his 3 buddies flying right over me..  ZERG PvP FTW!!!  FYI. No i didnt flag again.. I hear a lot of bitching about the changed in 3.1.  Everyone loved the Dual Spec's..  but the Pallys and Druids that i know are bitching about the MP5 changes and that it will pretty much screw them over.. Mages are bitching about something..  other then that, i donno what the deal is..  I havent been playing long enough to notice a BIG difference in game play.. #1098803 by slacker4life (Power User) at 2009-03-05 05:16:44 (4 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report] F1shb0n3 wrote: Hey!    I was wondering BLAHHHHHHH BLAHHHHH  hello there! how about you go die and get rid of that ginormous avatar of fail, gtfo these forums. #1098822 by unknown[258103] at 2009-03-05 07:34:44 (4 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report] F1shb0n3 wrote: Hey!                I was wondering if someone needs a good WOW server I have 2:   1: wow.ultimate.ro it's a high rate server(get good experience),but u have to work hard for the Items!   2: wow.fnet.ro  it's a fun server PERFECT for PVP-ing nice GM's, but not so populated......YET!!! Astoneshing items!                                          I will be waiting for those who want to join(PM)                the 2nd server is better! trust me Privat servers most be the most horrible thing ever. The only ones who plays there are 10 year old kids whos parrents dont think they are fit to play a MMO. And guess what their parents are right those little fuckers should stay away from MMOs and go out and dig a hole in the yard or something. #1098826 by unknown[8443] at 2009-03-05 08:10:45 (4 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report] locks are fine now. they were weak when the xpac first came out, but they don't have major pvp problems now. #1099246 by CDNeh69 (User) at 2009-03-06 00:17:47 (4 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report] xeoGenesis wrote: locks are fine now. they were weak when the xpac first came out, but they don't have major pvp problems now. Ive been out of the arenas for about 2 weeks.  My buddy has been on vacation.. we hopped back in today..  Every team today had a warlock.  Some had 2..  one was Demon Specc(easy kill) and the other i believe he was affliction..  He played that character really well..  Got me on my DK but the Holy Pally rolled over him pretty good..  Anyone Arena with an Affliction or Destruction Warlock?? #1099254 by Chill (Power User) at 2009-03-06 00:41:37 (4 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report] just in the need to cry some. What I hate in this game are the eltistidiots who thinks they know your class better then you. I've just been rejected from a mates guild because the shaman class leader thought I could use +haste games more then +int gems as a holy paladin. When I kindly told him that the ally mechanic worked differently he got mad and rejected me and demoted my friend. This is why I sometimes hate wow but most of all some people playing it. on another note, I'm soon 75 on my dk and having a blast. Though considering going tank with him since it seem to be a server shortage of it. So any "real" tank specc as a dk? I've seen a little mix of everything so far but frost seems pretty nice. #1099264 by LiquidAir (Power User) at 2009-03-06 00:51:52 (4 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report] CDNeh69 wrote: xeoGenesis wrote: locks are fine now. they were weak when the xpac first came out, but they don't have major pvp problems now. Ive been out of the arenas for about 2 weeks.  My buddy has been on vacation.. we hopped back in today..  Every team today had a warlock.  Some had 2..  one was Demon Specc(easy kill) and the other i believe he was affliction..  He played that character really well..  Got me on my DK but the Holy Pally rolled over him pretty good..  Anyone Arena with an Affliction or Destruction Warlock?? I haven't done arena yet so i can only tell you from my experience, but in BG i have a new Demo Lock alt and he rocks pretty good in there. Last match i checked i had contributed to 66 kills and i only had 5 deaths. My damage overall on the teams is usually 2nd place, rarely first but its happened. Chill: Wow dude i feel for you. Thats complete BS, you see its stupid elitist morons like that forgetting the whole point of a GAME. To 'have fun'. I'm on one of the top guilds on our server with my main and everyones very chill and relaxed and we have a great time. If you want pm me and if your on our server i will try and get you in with some very talented and cool people #1099292 by CDNeh69 (User) at 2009-03-06 01:58:53 (4 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report] Chill wrote: just in the need to cry some. What I hate in this game are the eltistidiots who thinks they know your class better then you. I've just been rejected from a mates guild because the shaman class leader thought I could use +haste games more then +int gems as a holy paladin. When I kindly told him that the ally mechanic worked differently he got mad and rejected me and demoted my friend. This is why I sometimes hate wow but most of all some people playing it. LMAO that happens..  everyone has their own opinions and tries to force them on others..  he is god in his own computer room..  dont let him tell you otherwise!!!! Find a new guild.. there are Hundreds..  Im sure you can find a digger better group and have just as much fun.. and run into the same idiots who know all.. Quote: on another note, I'm soon 75 on my dk and having a blast. Though considering going tank with him since it seem to be a server shortage of it. So any "real" tank specc as a dk? I've seen a little mix of everything so far but frost seems pretty nice. As i DK the best ones/only ones i have see are Frost..  And they hold aggro pretty damn good.. in our guild we have 2 Frost Tanks, both are great as main Tanks..  Our other tanks are Pallys and Warriors... #1099530 by unknown[89612] at 2009-03-06 17:15:27 (4 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report] I've keybinded (other than movement and 1-0) f g v x z q e Shift-E Shift-F Shift-Q Shift-V Shift-G Shift-X Ctrl-F Ctrl-E (wanted Ctrl+q too) but it was way out of reach while moving #1100345 by unknown[329797] at 2009-03-08 04:57:59 (4 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report] I've seen many guilds recruiting people for all classes except the DKs. Why is this? #1100352 by Snuffsis (Power User) at 2009-03-08 05:53:58 (4 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report] Probably because they already got enough of them.

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