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#1081497 by slacker4life (Power User) at 2009-01-26 23:40:45 (4 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report] thanks guys, it seems offgamers has the best deal atm with 15% more gold *im on a US server* but ill keep an eye on them.  #1082501 by chris (Power User) at 2009-01-29 00:46:24 (4 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report] Just had the best feeling in WoW for a long time tonight After 3 nights and about 10 hours, we finally got Sarth3D down on heroic mode. Ended up with 7 dead, but all tanks and 4 healers alive to see it through. 3rd horde guild, and 5th overall on the realm to do it so we're all pretty proud of it. Roll on the 10 man version which from the tries we've had so far is going to be even more of a feat to get #1082507 by Chill (Power User) at 2009-01-29 00:59:53 (4 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report] thats quite the achivment yes! Congrats Chris well done to you and your guild! #1082802 by Warfare (Power User) at 2009-01-29 17:31:27 (4 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report] Still need 2 achievements for the red proto drake. Cant wait, it's so sexy! #1083001 by Melrose86 (User) at 2009-01-30 03:32:57 (4 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report] This image has been resized, click here to view the full-sized image. Last edited by Melrose86 at 2009-01-30 03:33:15 #1083017 by unknown[254478] at 2009-01-30 05:30:34 (4 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report] Melrose86 wrote: http://i39.tinypic.com/2j42dm8.jpg Whats that? A timeline of you since starting playing? #1083171 by Melrose86 (User) at 2009-01-30 15:35:53 (4 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report] naw some other dude, ive never played it before, wouldnt be into games like that #1083834 by unknown[316915] at 2009-01-31 20:02:43 (4 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report] Obtain - 75 Tauren Death Knight on Dawnbringer (US) Phantm - 60 Troll Rogue on Proudmoore (US) Play with me! Preferably my Death Knight because that's all I play these days. #1083962 by unknown[114354] at 2009-02-01 02:58:02 (4 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report] My DK is doing great, evey instance/raid on farm. http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet … n=Thanatoz Still need gloves to get full valorous set though it'll come eventually oh and DK's ftw, gotta love topping the damage meters even after the ''so called nerf'' haha yeah right :p #1084090 by unknown[220506] at 2009-02-01 12:25:47 (4 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report] Melrose86 wrote: http://i39.tinypic.com/2j42dm8.jpg Actually thats just a troll image, its backwards from some site about weight loosing :> #1084155 by LiquidAir (Power User) at 2009-02-01 14:26:11 (4 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report] DK's are so bloody overrated and useless. Oooo...look at me i have death grip DK Frost tank. Good. The rest, pretty much useless. Blood pvp, boned. DPS, absolutely trashed by Boomkin spec. I dont see the great appeal of them. Got one, made one, by level 59 Frost, bored to tears. He's now my personal alchemy vendor. Thats his use in wow now.He's my pop machine. Get me a pepsi & mana potions. Now! I've pvp'ed so many DK's and absolutely walked through them and out DPS'ed them in every single instance i've been in with them in Boomkin that i really dont see anything great about them at all anymore besides an overhyped class Blizzard made to promote WOTLC and to make people want to play tanks again. Oh! Wait! I stand corrected. I didnt have to go through the Barrens again Last edited by LiquidAir at 2009-02-01 23:51:42 #1084342 by Yinchie (Power User) at 2009-02-01 20:35:12 (4 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report] recruiting healers, especially shamans and druids for a EU guild on a PVP server, horde. We have done all content including sarth 3d. #1084443 by makubex (Power User) at 2009-02-02 01:39:24 (4 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report] So where is it now, Yinchie? Still on LS after Retrospect's downfall? #1084466 by unknown[258103] at 2009-02-02 04:43:57 (4 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report] LiquidAir wrote: I've pvp'ed so many DK's and absolutely walked through them and out DPS'ed them in every single instance i've been in with them in Boomkin that i really dont see anything great about them at all anymore besides an overhyped class Blizzard made to promote WOTLC and to make people want to play tanks again. Then you prolly never played with a real DK in your party. In 5m instances and heroics from 55+ unholy DKs go from having the strongest aoe damage ingame to very strong aoe damage and possibly highest  damage on 3 min cooldown (spread sheet). So if played right they should have kicked your ass by miles in pure damage. Top 100 arena teams (in the world) that works GREAT with Deathknights are: 2v2: Deathknight+Paladin 3v3: Deathknight+Paladin+Paladin 5v5: Deathknight+Mage+Hunter+Priest+Paladin. BUT there is a new setup of 3 Deathknights and 2 Paladins that is currently steamrolling their way to the top and by the end of this week there will prolly be a few more and at the end of the season who knows? Paladins stands for 27% of the arena population Death Knights 13% Hunters 13% rest 10% or lower In raids DKs are not that OP they are just very good compared to alot of other classes/specs. Hunters are in the top followed by mages and warlocks. Finally with a class like Death Knights beeing very good compared to other classes in both PVE and PVP I don't see what is useless about them. They beat druids in PVE and PVP. Death Knights don't have any weak sides atm while most if not all the other classes do. That what makes them so good. Top dps on patchwerk November 2008 (not that many 80 dks yet) http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/threa … p;pageNo=1 #1084903 by Snuffsis (Power User) at 2009-02-02 21:59:05 (4 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report] Relur wrote: LiquidAir wrote: I've pvp'ed so many DK's and absolutely walked through them and out DPS'ed them in every single instance i've been in with them in Boomkin that i really dont see anything great about them at all anymore besides an overhyped class Blizzard made to promote WOTLC and to make people want to play tanks again. Then you prolly never played with a real DK in your party. In 5m instances and heroics from 55+ unholy DKs go from having the strongest aoe damage ingame to very strong aoe damage and possibly highest  damage on 3 min cooldown (spread sheet). So if played right they should have kicked your ass by miles in pure damage. Top 100 arena teams (in the world) that works GREAT with Deathknights are: 2v2: Deathknight+Paladin 3v3: Deathknight+Paladin+Paladin 5v5: Deathknight+Mage+Hunter+Priest+Paladin. BUT there is a new setup of 3 Deathknights and 2 Paladins that is currently steamrolling their way to the top and by the end of this week there will prolly be a few more and at the end of the season who knows? Paladins stands for 27% of the arena population Death Knights 13% Hunters 13% rest 10% or lower In raids DKs are not that OP they are just very good compared to alot of other classes/specs. Hunters are in the top followed by mages and warlocks. Finally with a class like Death Knights beeing very good compared to other classes in both PVE and PVP I don't see what is useless about them. They beat druids in PVE and PVP. Death Knights don't have any weak sides atm while most if not all the other classes do. That what makes them so good. Top dps on patchwerk November 2008 (not that many 80 dks yet) http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/threa … p;pageNo=1 Disagree on that raid part, i have never seen a hunter (after the patch) out DPS me as Elemental shaman, neither have i seen a warlock or DK do that, and they are pretty damn well geared. #1085045 by LiquidAir (Power User) at 2009-02-03 05:03:56 (4 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report] Relur wrote: LiquidAir wrote: I've pvp'ed so many DK's and absolutely walked through them and out DPS'ed them in every single instance i've been in with them in Boomkin that i really dont see anything great about them at all anymore besides an overhyped class Blizzard made to promote WOTLC and to make people want to play tanks again. Then you prolly never played with a real DK in your party. In 5m instances and heroics from 55+ unholy DKs go from having the strongest aoe damage ingame to very strong aoe damage and possibly highest  damage on 3 min cooldown (spread sheet). So if played right they should have kicked your ass by miles in pure damage. Top 100 arena teams (in the world) that works GREAT with Deathknights are: 2v2: Deathknight+Paladin 3v3: Deathknight+Paladin+Paladin 5v5: Deathknight+Mage+Hunter+Priest+Paladin. BUT there is a new setup of 3 Deathknights and 2 Paladins that is currently steamrolling their way to the top and by the end of this week there will prolly be a few more and at the end of the season who knows? Paladins stands for 27% of the arena population Death Knights 13% Hunters 13% rest 10% or lower In raids DKs are not that OP they are just very good compared to alot of other classes/specs. Hunters are in the top followed by mages and warlocks. Finally with a class like Death Knights beeing very good compared to other classes in both PVE and PVP I don't see what is useless about them. They beat druids in PVE and PVP. Death Knights don't have any weak sides atm while most if not all the other classes do. That what makes them so good. Top dps on patchwerk November 2008 (not that many 80 dks yet) http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/threa … p;pageNo=1 I was talking about DPS, not Damage Done stats. And snuff is right, i've been on LOTS of instances & Raids, and they get absolutely owned every single time in DPS by Shammy's and Boomkins. I'd honestly be surprised if a DK could even out DPS a mage, becuase all three of those have AOE's. Hell i do more dmg just with hurricane in DPS then the DK's stats combined overall for DPS. Let alone Starfall, moonfire and insect swarm and Wrath on top of that. #1085165 by unknown[258103] at 2009-02-03 13:53:43 (4 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report] You guys post opinions without facts to back it up. I post PURE FACTS and no need for opinion. The stats don't lie but ofc not 100% correct. So what would I listen to, the stats from top 25 raids in the world and world arena ranking OR a person on a forum claiming his class/spec is far more surperior in every way. Well I let you guys decide what is more reliable and you can believe that. Meanwhile my lvl 2 nude belf bankchar is going to solo onyxia while shooting laser from her nipples that crits for 50 million. Now that beats everything right? #1085234 by makubex (Power User) at 2009-02-03 16:49:13 (4 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report] Lazers are the best ingame, you win Relur. #1085429 by Snuffsis (Power User) at 2009-02-03 21:55:26 (4 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report] Relur wrote: You guys post opinions without facts to back it up. I post PURE FACTS and no need for opinion. The stats don't lie but ofc not 100% correct. So what would I listen to, the stats from top 25 raids in the world and world arena ranking OR a person on a forum claiming his class/spec is far more surperior in every way. Well I let you guys decide what is more reliable and you can believe that. Meanwhile my lvl 2 nude belf bankchar is going to solo onyxia while shooting laser from her nipples that crits for 50 million. Now that beats everything right? THe facts you posted (the link) is NOT fact at all. The fact is that i do more dmg as elemental shaman than any DK, as a matter of fact, here is a screenshot of todays raid, look at that if you will. This image has been resized, click here to view the full-sized image. the fact is that there is only 1 DK in the top 10. But if you want i can post more pics, and stats, showing that DK's is not at the top of dps anymore after the patch, you can also check out Elitistjerks.com best place to get all your facts. Last edited by Snuffsis at 2009-02-03 21:55:43 #1085450 by Chill (Power User) at 2009-02-03 22:38:35 (4 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report] Even though I think snuffis is on to something, malygos is maybe not the best place to post a dmglist since it's such a different raid from other _raw_ dmg encounters. but yeah, in my guild there's never been a dk even close to compete about the dps other classes can come out with. Even our retpala is far better. Might be a l2p issue though #1085514 by Snuffsis (Power User) at 2009-02-04 00:01:12 (4 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report] Chill wrote: Even though I think snuffis is on to something, malygos is maybe not the best place to post a dmglist since it's such a different raid from other _raw_ dmg encounters. but yeah, in my guild there's never been a dk even close to compete about the dps other classes can come out with. Even our retpala is far better. Might be a l2p issue though That dmg was from a whole naxx 25 + malygos, this is overall completely through all the major raiding content, except Sartharion. This is how i think we should measure DPS, because there are lots of varying bosses and how to take on those encounters, so counting pure dps like patchwerk means SHIT when it comes to bosses like Grobbulus (lots of moving) or Malygos (lots of time in the air and unable to attack depending on class) Sapphiron aswell. #1085532 by unknown[258103] at 2009-02-04 00:45:13 (4 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report] Snuffsis wrote: Chill wrote: Even though I think snuffis is on to something, malygos is maybe not the best place to post a dmglist since it's such a different raid from other _raw_ dmg encounters. but yeah, in my guild there's never been a dk even close to compete about the dps other classes can come out with. Even our retpala is far better. Might be a l2p issue though That dmg was from a whole naxx 25 + malygos, this is overall completely through all the major raiding content, except Sartharion. This is how i think we should measure DPS, because there are lots of varying bosses and how to take on those encounters, so counting pure dps like patchwerk means SHIT when it comes to bosses like Grobbulus (lots of moving) or Malygos (lots of time in the air and unable to attack depending on class) Sapphiron aswell. No. More movement will rule out clickers and other bad players and has nothing to do with the class. Best way to messure PURE DPS of a class is to take the highest numbers from all the raids in the world on the most static fight where nobody moves around and no random encounters. Then its all about rotation and cycles. In a random event a clicker for an example would spend 2-3 secs turning around instead of dps. He would have to move and then turn and then click on spell. Or a stupid player would not know what to start with after movement just because his cycle is broken it would give unfair statistics against the total. So to sum this up, in a fight with alot of PLAYER involvement means the PLAYERS SKILL is more important. In static combat the PLAYERS involvement would be less important. Btw if you would go after your screenshot a rogue would be a viable dps class and it would prove BLIZZARD AND ENTIRE ROGUE COMMUNITY wrong. So either rogues are FINE and the rest of the world even blizzard are dumbfucks OR he performed alot better with his class than most other people in the raid with theirs. Now go get me a screenshot of Patchwerk with 6k dps and I will shut up. Btw been reading Elitisjerks for a long time now and if you have been following them you can remember than they were wrong about desto warlocks with fire spec. So they are really good at what they are doing but they are still human and can make mistakes. #1085534 by unknown[114354] at 2009-02-04 00:47:03 (4 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report] Snuffsis wrote: Relur wrote: You guys post opinions without facts to back it up. I post PURE FACTS and no need for opinion. The stats don't lie but ofc not 100% correct. So what would I listen to, the stats from top 25 raids in the world and world arena ranking OR a person on a forum claiming his class/spec is far more surperior in every way. Well I let you guys decide what is more reliable and you can believe that. Meanwhile my lvl 2 nude belf bankchar is going to solo onyxia while shooting laser from her nipples that crits for 50 million. Now that beats everything right? THe facts you posted (the link) is NOT fact at all. The fact is that i do more dmg as elemental shaman than any DK, as a matter of fact, here is a screenshot of todays raid, look at that if you will. This image has been resized, click here to view the full-sized image. the fact is that there is only 1 DK in the top 10. But if you want i can post more pics, and stats, showing that DK's is not at the top of dps anymore after the patch, you can also check out Elitistjerks.com best place to get all your facts. Well yea, offcourse you outdps that DK, he's shit geared, shit specced, shit gemed, the lots 0/32/39 is still the way to go, god i hate dk's who doesn't know how to dps... 3.4 dps on an average on 25 man? i seriously rofled on the floor. fact is, skill and gear comes in pair, pushing out as much as 5k dps on average in 25 mans, gonna take a screen of it the next raid if you like..tell that Ipes guy to l2p and roll a decent spec Elemental shamans do great damage yer so does the boomkins, they can be competitive but meh, DK's and Fury warriors own the DPS still imo, teamed up with an enhancement shaman.. I don't see anything coming near us #1085536 by Snuffsis (Power User) at 2009-02-04 00:49:29 (4 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report] Episode wrote: Snuffsis wrote: Relur wrote: You guys post opinions without facts to back it up. I post PURE FACTS and no need for opinion. The stats don't lie but ofc not 100% correct. So what would I listen to, the stats from top 25 raids in the world and world arena ranking OR a person on a forum claiming his class/spec is far more surperior in every way. Well I let you guys decide what is more reliable and you can believe that. Meanwhile my lvl 2 nude belf bankchar is going to solo onyxia while shooting laser from her nipples that crits for 50 million. Now that beats everything right? THe facts you posted (the link) is NOT fact at all. The fact is that i do more dmg as elemental shaman than any DK, as a matter of fact, here is a screenshot of todays raid, look at that if you will. This image has been resized, click here to view the full-sized image. the fact is that there is only 1 DK in the top 10. But if you want i can post more pics, and stats, showing that DK's is not at the top of dps anymore after the patch, you can also check out Elitistjerks.com best place to get all your facts. Well yea, offcourse you outdps that DK, he's shit geared, shit specced, shit gemed, the lots 0/32/39 is still the way to go, god i hate dk's who doesn't know how to dps... 3.4 dps on an average on 25 man? i seriously rofled on the floor. fact is, skill and gear comes in pair, pushing out as much as 5k dps on average in 25 mans, gonna take a screen of it the next raid if you like..tell that Ipes guy to l2p and roll a decent spec Elemental shamans do great damage yer so does the boomkins, they can be competitive but meh, DK's and Fury warriors own the DPS still imo, teamed up with an enhancement shaman.. I don't see anything coming near us Yea, usually its our best warrior at nr1 with about 6k DPS, hes sick, Cowerbunga is the name. But i have still not seen a good DK DPS so far, joined another guild on another server now, so i'll see how those DKs are. on bosses like patchwerk anyway, i pull of about 5.3k DPS as elemental shaman, easily Last edited by Snuffsis at 2009-02-04 00:53:56 #1085538 by unknown[114354] at 2009-02-04 00:51:43 (4 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report] Snuffsis wrote: Episode wrote: Snuffsis wrote: Relur wrote: You guys post opinions without facts to back it up. I post PURE FACTS and no need for opinion. The stats don't lie but ofc not 100% correct. So what would I listen to, the stats from top 25 raids in the world and world arena ranking OR a person on a forum claiming his class/spec is far more surperior in every way. Well I let you guys decide what is more reliable and you can believe that. Meanwhile my lvl 2 nude belf bankchar is going to solo onyxia while shooting laser from her nipples that crits for 50 million. Now that beats everything right? THe facts you posted (the link) is NOT fact at all. The fact is that i do more dmg as elemental shaman than any DK, as a matter of fact, here is a screenshot of todays raid, look at that if you will. This image has been resized, click here to view the full-sized image. the fact is that there is only 1 DK in the top 10. But if you want i can post more pics, and stats, showing that DK's is not at the top of dps anymore after the patch, you can also check out Elitistjerks.com best place to get all your facts. Well yea, offcourse you outdps that DK, he's shit geared, shit specced, shit gemed, the lots 0/32/39 is still the way to go, god i hate dk's who doesn't know how to dps... 3.4 dps on an average on 25 man? i seriously rofled on the floor. fact is, skill and gear comes in pair, pushing out as much as 5k dps on average in 25 mans, gonna take a screen of it the next raid if you like..tell that Ipes guy to l2p and roll a decent spec Elemental shamans do great damage yer so does the boomkins, they can be competitive but meh, DK's and Fury warriors own the DPS still imo, teamed up with an enhancement shaman.. I don't see anything coming near us Yea, usually its our best warrior at nr1 with about 6k DPS, hes sick, Cowerbunga is the name. 6k? rofl that's awesome, our does about 5.5 and im amazed everytime EDIT: come to think of it, yer.. i think ive seen some 6k's aswell from fury warriors

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