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#1366649 by tokolDonor (Sarcastic Admin) at 2011-01-08 16:58:12 (2 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report]Top

Trillions of flies and other insects can't be wrong either?

#1366656 by Xiggiduna (User) at 2011-01-08 17:37:51 (2 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report]Top

Haha :p what a good year this started out to be.

#1366661 by duuuh (User) at 2011-01-08 17:53:43 (2 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report]Top

Kpoof needs to get laid :o

on a side note, guilds hit level 10 - 1-85 heirloom cloaks available - got mine for DK, awesome

Last edited by duuuh at 2011-01-08 17:56:29

#1366662 by Xiggiduna (User) at 2011-01-08 17:57:08 (2 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report]Top

Haha

Nice grats!

#1366675 by DjStorm (Power User) at 2011-01-08 18:46:29 (2 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report]Top

And you`d think a mod would be impartial lol.

#1366682 by tokolDonor (Sarcastic Admin) at 2011-01-08 19:09:11 (2 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report]Top

Mods perhaps.. I'm not technically one. But thats depending on the matter too. I didn't take part on the debate in the first place.

Seriously.. duuuh: Less than an hour after I tell people not to make it personal... You continue it. Thats just stupid. Luckily I'm not really willing to put in any more effort on this thread for now.

#1366757 by Snuffsis (Power User) at 2011-01-08 22:03:59 (2 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report]Top

Wow, this is almost like a pug heroic here when wiping on a boss!

#1367198 by Lomeus91Donor (Power User) at 2011-01-10 10:42:24 (2 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report]Top

Snuffsis wrote:

Wow, this is almost like a pug heroic here when wiping on a boss!

ROFL, thought exactly the same

I'v gone broke now learning LW, costs a silly amount of G just to get a few stacks of leather. I'm on 417 and have to get some money together. I earn probablly like 300g each day I play from daily quests and doing the quests in the zones I haven't been in yet, but what is the easiest money maker in WoW atm?

#1367205 by unknown[397565] at 2011-01-10 11:04:13 (2 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report]Top

selling gems for hundreds of golds each, just go farm some ores, prospect, then have a alchemist alt or buddy transmute them (it will often proc too), then cut and sell on AH, alchemists sell their truegold cd, LW those armor "enchants" specially leg ones but its low drop, sells well though

#1367474 by Lomeus91Donor (Power User) at 2011-01-11 05:34:38 (2 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report]Top

malavoglia wrote:

selling gems for hundreds of golds each, just go farm some ores, prospect, then have a alchemist alt or buddy transmute them (it will often proc too), then cut and sell on AH, alchemists sell their truegold cd, LW those armor "enchants" specially leg ones but its low drop, sells well though

I'v got skinning on 525 and Lw on 460 now. I guess I can make some leg enchants and sell them on the AH, but the mats are quite expensive so I have to know that there is a market for them. People are allways so good in making money, while I have problems with it, don't like farming for hours at end like I did in vanilla just to get my hands on some gold. Guess you have to work hard for "play" money aswell

#1367496 by DjStorm (Power User) at 2011-01-11 08:42:54 (2 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report]Top

Depends how well you know your market. I used to make gold very quickly. And yea, those leg enchants should sell well, every half decent player needs them. Find a source that sells your needed mats in bulk and for a lower price so you can have a bigger margin of profit.

#1367710 by Xiggiduna (User) at 2011-01-11 23:05:55 (2 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report]Top

Wow
http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/829 … -are-Hard!

#1367715 by DjStorm (Power User) at 2011-01-11 23:22:02 (2 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report]Top

Oh no, heroics aren`t steamroll anymore, I can`t just afk dps and finish it in 5 minutes What, I have shackle? Sheep? Interrupts? Where? How do I use them?

Goddam retards and their dumbed down content.

#1368051 by unknown[329797] at 2011-01-13 02:56:23 (2 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report]Top

Actually, you can, as long as you have 346 geared tank. The only place you can't do that is in Vortex Pinnacle, where you meet 2 healers in one pack. Gosh, hard stuff nowadays.

#1368073 by Snuffsis (Power User) at 2011-01-13 06:12:47 (2 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report]Top

Kpoof wrote:

Actually, you can, as long as you have 346 geared tank. The only place you can't do that is in Vortex Pinnacle, where you meet 2 healers in one pack. Gosh, hard stuff nowadays.

You can't even with a geared tank.
you need a geared healer and dps.
Try doing stonecore without ccing the earthshapers, they'll rape your group when they transform and aoe.

And its just stupid not to cc, uneccesary dmg on people overall and makes everything harder for the healer.
It's people like you who underestimate CCs that cause wipes.

#1368142 by Spaderace (Power User) at 2011-01-13 14:05:15 (2 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report]Top

Snuffsis wrote:

Kpoof wrote:

Actually, you can, as long as you have 346 geared tank. The only place you can't do that is in Vortex Pinnacle, where you meet 2 healers in one pack. Gosh, hard stuff nowadays.

You can't even with a geared tank.
you need a geared healer and dps.
Try doing stonecore without ccing the earthshapers, they'll rape your group when they transform and aoe.

And its just stupid not to cc, uneccesary dmg on people overall and makes everything harder for the healer.
It's people like you who underestimate CCs that cause wipes.

Or put a random DPS on said target to interupt stuff, not like they deal any serious damage anyways.

#1368153 by Snuffsis (Power User) at 2011-01-13 14:37:22 (2 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report]Top

Spaderace wrote:

Snuffsis wrote:

Kpoof wrote:

Actually, you can, as long as you have 346 geared tank. The only place you can't do that is in Vortex Pinnacle, where you meet 2 healers in one pack. Gosh, hard stuff nowadays.

You can't even with a geared tank.
you need a geared healer and dps.
Try doing stonecore without ccing the earthshapers, they'll rape your group when they transform and aoe.

And its just stupid not to cc, uneccesary dmg on people overall and makes everything harder for the healer.
It's people like you who underestimate CCs that cause wipes.

Or put a random DPS on said target to interupt stuff, not like they deal any serious damage anyways.

Yea... 20k/second (there are two) isn't not a big deal, especially not when it's aoe so it's 100k/second... totally manageable...

Point was, CC is a GOOD thing and should be used since it makes pulls faster and the risk of wiping lower.
And it makes people better players.

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#1368161 by Spaderace (Power User) at 2011-01-13 15:06:46 (2 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report]Top

Snuffsis wrote:

Spaderace wrote:

Snuffsis wrote:

Kpoof wrote:

Actually, you can, as long as you have 346 geared tank. The only place you can't do that is in Vortex Pinnacle, where you meet 2 healers in one pack. Gosh, hard stuff nowadays.

You can't even with a geared tank.
you need a geared healer and dps.
Try doing stonecore without ccing the earthshapers, they'll rape your group when they transform and aoe.

And its just stupid not to cc, uneccesary dmg on people overall and makes everything harder for the healer.
It's people like you who underestimate CCs that cause wipes.

Or put a random DPS on said target to interupt stuff, not like they deal any serious damage anyways.

Yea... 20k/second (there are two) isn't not a big deal, especially not when it's aoe so it's 100k/second... totally manageable...

Point was, CC is a GOOD thing and should be used since it makes pulls faster and the risk of wiping lower.
And it makes people better players.

I mean, if you dont have CC for w/e reason put a dps on said mob to interupt heals/summon earthwarden, works just as good CC as the mob itself doesn't deal much damage.

Example:

3 melee mobs.
Manastorm (which should be dps'd first so he runs away)
1 Summoner

tank and 2 dps on manastorm. Third dps on the Summoner. Tank them close and AoE them down to dust!!


2 Summoners? 1 dps on each summoner.

And if tank fails to tank that they suck :S I can press 25-40k threat/mob in an aoesituation, and between how taunt works nowdays it's pretty easy.

#1368303 by unknown[329797] at 2011-01-14 00:02:20 (2 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report]Top

Snuffsis wrote:

Kpoof wrote:

Actually, you can, as long as you have 346 geared tank. The only place you can't do that is in Vortex Pinnacle, where you meet 2 healers in one pack. Gosh, hard stuff nowadays.

You can't even with a geared tank.
you need a geared healer and dps.
Try doing stonecore without ccing the earthshapers, they'll rape your group when they transform and aoe.

And its just stupid not to cc, uneccesary dmg on people overall and makes everything harder for the healer.
It's people like you who underestimate CCs that cause wipes.

Yes, because I've heard that using a CD when tanking is terribly hard and annoying and should be completely disregarded, especially considering it'll be up before the next pack. Avoidance is out of the question here aswell, especially considering that each mob hits 1/15th of your health pool. I think my healers enjoy to be on 100% mana when the pack dies.

"You can't even with a geared tank". I guess I didn't do it then, I guess I never do it. It's hard to interrupt one mob aswell I heard, and it's a really really bad thing to get some splash damage going to get through these boring and arduous heroics.

Alot of sarcasm in my post here, hope it's not too confusing.

#1368354 by Snuffsis (Power User) at 2011-01-14 06:15:12 (2 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report]Top

Kpoof wrote:



Yes, because I've heard that using a CD when tanking is terribly hard and annoying and should be completely disregarded, especially considering it'll be up before the next pack. Avoidance is out of the question here aswell, especially considering that each mob hits 1/15th of your health pool. I think my healers enjoy to be on 100% mana when the pack dies.

"You can't even with a geared tank". I guess I didn't do it then, I guess I never do it. It's hard to interrupt one mob aswell I heard, and it's a really really bad thing to get some splash damage going to get through these boring and arduous heroics.

Alot of sarcasm in my post here, hope it's not too confusing.

Yes, i enjoy being at 100% mana, you know why?
Because that means we can run through faster!
We don't have to fucking sit and drink, we don't need mana breaks or shit like that.
When i run heroics, everyone knows what to do, trash packs die in seconds with CC and an instance like HoO takes atmost 45min to 1 hour because we never have to drink on trash.

But sure, you go ahead and spend hours in heroics because you're wasting the healers mana.

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#1368407 by Spaderace (Power User) at 2011-01-14 13:32:11 (2 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report]Top

HoO is one of the quickest HCs, there are exactly 6 trashpacks and 3 bosses you need to kill. If you have to drink after every pack cause you didnt CC it'll take an extra 3 minutes of drinking, not counting the fact that you will probably drink befiore a boss anyways, so lets say 2 minutes.

Lets say you kill all bosses, that's an extra 7 minutes (12 trashpacks)

How is that hours spent? And if you play it right, wont aoeing down packs mean you kill be them faster anyways? As long as you move them from healing circles and purge/spellsteal the firedudes I reckon you'd be alright. That's atleast what I do when I run HCs without CC, 30 min runs sup? Almost up to WotLK speed soon. Seeing as my HC group never seem to have CC/care about in HCs we now do this in every HC, even *GASP* Vortex Pinnacle, you can easily just aoe them down with 2 dps focusing on one healer each keeping it stunlocked/silenced.

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#1368409 by Snuffsis (Power User) at 2011-01-14 13:40:37 (2 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report]Top

Yea, HoO was a bad example.
Still, AOE is crap now, it's been nerfed to shit, does crap dmg and costs a ton of mana, it's better to single target dps.
Vortex pinnacle is the easiest instance ever, Deadmines before the nerf is where shit went down.

#1368412 by ViryzDonor (Power User) at 2011-01-14 13:52:52 (2 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report]Top

Snuffsis wrote:

Spaderace wrote:

Snuffsis wrote:

Kpoof wrote:

Actually, you can, as long as you have 346 geared tank. The only place you can't do that is in Vortex Pinnacle, where you meet 2 healers in one pack. Gosh, hard stuff nowadays.

You can't even with a geared tank.
you need a geared healer and dps.
Try doing stonecore without ccing the earthshapers, they'll rape your group when they transform and aoe.

And its just stupid not to cc, uneccesary dmg on people overall and makes everything harder for the healer.
It's people like you who underestimate CCs that cause wipes.

Or put a random DPS on said target to interupt stuff, not like they deal any serious damage anyways.

Yea... 20k/second (there are two) isn't not a big deal, especially not when it's aoe so it's 100k/second... totally manageable...

Point was, CC is a GOOD thing and should be used since it makes pulls faster and the risk of wiping lower.
And it makes people better players.

I disagree. You cant really say that CC makes a pull faster? Sure I'ts a good thing with CC, but some places has become a zergfest imo, chainpull after chainpull.

#1368464 by elrey7Warned (User) at 2011-01-14 16:53:04 (2 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report]Top

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/ … -Cataclysm

Ahaha, so true.

#1368486 by unknown[329797] at 2011-01-14 18:51:52 (2 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report]Top

There are plent of ways to regenerate mana. If you actually go OOM by healing through one pack, that's both yours and mildly the tanks fault for taking too much damage. Tanks use CDs (they are there for a reason), and if you don't have spirit, then maybe you'd be better off as a DPS. I've never ever seen a 346 geared healer run OOM if the tank atleast has some common sense. So NO, it won't take longer to drink then to CC, kill one add at a time, avoid any splash damage and do it your way. Doesn't even make sense why it would be faster to do it like that.

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