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#1361469 by DjStorm (Power User) at 2010-12-19 19:25:36 (2 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report]

Level your warrior with mining even if you plan on getting other professions. If you plan on something like JC/BS keep the ore you need to level those, and sell everything else. It`s how I got epic flying on my mage.

#1361494 by unknown[329797] at 2010-12-19 20:25:37 (2 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report]

@ Xiggiduna

I really can't be assed to quote that whole list of bullshit you posted, but let me rephrase everything I said so you can go back to being the little addicted 12 year old fanboy you are.

First off, stop quoting 3 words I'm writing, I wrote everything perfectly reasonable and with a really good sense of the matter, and you quoting "Archeology is shit" only and then responding "No sir you are an idiot" is really amusing. Point being, go back to MMO-Champion and troll there please, not here.

So let's start from the beginning.

1) Deathwing lore

Yes, it's amazing that Deathwing has a backstory about him doesn't it? I don't give a shit if he does, and he probably is the "biggest threat I will ever face", just like the Burning Legion, just like Arthas, just like the fucking Old Gods, never ends doesn't it? You didn't get this through your fat skull, I was saying that the presentation of Deathwing and the whole story is pathetic, and that the in-game cinematics Blizz worked so hard on looks worse then fucking Doom.

2) No, a remake doesn't make the world interesting. I wouldn't give a last shit about them replacing an NPC with another NPC and moving the terrain a little bit. I'm not thinking "WHOA deathwing did this!", I'm not even noticing it, because there really isn't anything special to it. I've been raising my archeology, and I didn't even bother looking at the zones because believe it or not, A) I've seen the new zones so many times I couldn't give a shit less and B) I was focusing more on the actual task at hand.

So, even though the whole shattering wasn't part of the Cataclysm expansion seeing as that took part in the Vanilla game, it can't be counted as Cataclysm itself.

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Wrong. Lets take an example, the Two-haned sword Zin'rokh. It its the BEST weapon you will get until hardmodes in raiding. And 99% of the population won't be getin that until many many months.
Hardcore guilds like Paragon have people still trying to get that sword. It will be the best two-hand for a long time. Not just for the hardcore, the casuals aswell. Anyone can get it. And that is just one item out of many.

So again you my friend are very very wrong.

Right, so farming for a Sword that has a 1% drop rate, which takes you many many weeks and month to probably not even get is worth wasting my time on? Yes, that's the best weapon right now except the ACTUAL RAID CONTENT, item level 359 you know? And no, it will not be the best two-hand for a long time, it will get replaced soon. Get your facts straight troll. "And that's just one item out of many" - yeah, from raiding. Amazing isn't it?

4) Yes, AH prices are ridiculous, I didn't say anything else, and I don't need your confirmation about this. You see, I am well aware of how the game works unlike some people. Did you see me say "plz nerf AH olol?" - no, so stop quoting unnessesary shit that you really have no clue about.

5) "Wrong". Nice reply. No, you see, healing is broken. Vanilla wasn't a great game. Did you enjoy raiding as a warrior with spirit? Did you enjoy bugged encounters and less engaging fights? Just because healing is now "hard" and you can slap your huge e-cock around because YOU magically managed because of that amazing tank doesn't make you good, and it doesn't make healing good. You really seem to not know shit about healing, because you're either A) that old-school freak from vanilla that says vanilla was the best expansion or B) a gearscore using whiner. Healing is broken right now, and guess what, 80% of the player base agrees with me on this. There's NO skill in healing right now, either you manage perfectly or you fuck up by using the wrong heal, and it's way too penalizing. That's not how healing should be. It has to be brought down to the same faceroll level as DPSing or tanking. You see, DPSing and tanking are quite faceroll due to what, no responsibilities right now. Threat is in theory not even in the game due to the bad balancing, and holding a couple of CCs is hard..?

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That is everything wotlk and tbc didnt have. Every instance was rush and mash heals and dmg. AoE and AoE.
The game is finally fixed to be played properly, not run through it with spamming aoe and spamming dps. So what's to complain about? The only reason you might be complaining about that is because you think its hard. But you are trying so hard to explain to everyone how easy it is, but still you complain.

Well done proving how stupid you are in reality. I clearly explained what was wrong with heroics, and you still seem to believe otherwise, "because you think it's hard" - that made me laugh in real life to be honest.

Now, again. Yes, it was rush and mash heals and dmg, and your kind of people complained. Now it's rush in, CCs and take out one target at a time. Now I complain, because it's too easy and too boring. You don't understand this? And no, I quite frankly don't think that heroics are hard.

I don't know how far into the game you are, but right now Lost City and BRC on heroic are AoE fests. Have you noticed this? Or have you been too busy having that head up your own ass? Tanks are running with 333 / 349 gear and AoEs are all over the place - nice attentionspan you got there. Or I could always say "Wrong.".

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Wrong again. Where exactly is the story fucked up? This expansion has more lore than any expansion. And its better than ever. My guess is that you know nothing about the lore, other than "lol dragon" as you pointed out =). Good job kiddo! Have a cookie.

Well well well, props to you kiddo, for taking this huge step of standing in the spotlight. Making assumptions is a great way to the top. This expansion has aloooooooooot of story, hence the #1 if you read it.

I guess if you would even play this game, you would realise that the presentation of this shit is the worst done in any game. New players who have no idea who DW is have no clue about him even after doing the freaking loremaster achievements, that's how bad it is. I'll people like you and red shirt guy drown in your orgasms of the knowledge of the lore. Enjoy your pants-wetting. I know enough about the lore to know how bad the presentation of it is in this expansion.

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Well well wrong again. The classes have never been more balanced to each other atm than any other expansion. No class is more OP than the other one, not just yet.

Right, so you think that Blood DKs going around with 100k+ Blood shields and 70k death strike heals are balanced. You think that Frost mages are in a fine place right now. You believe Warrior tanks are in line with the other tanks aswell. I think I've mentioned enough, let me know and I can list a bit more classes for you to "counter-argue" in your mind.

Tell you what, I'll let you sit there in your crib sucking your thumb, because you obviously have no idea about this expansion judging by your responses to my statements (note - statements, not opinions, do you know that word?)

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I get that you would rather stay in wortlk/tbc because your probably started playing in tbc and dont really know what wow was before it took a huge turn.
And you are saying there were good players back in wotlk. Where are they? Are they bad now? =) Did the "idiot check" that blizzard implemented in this expansion work on them. Did they get bad suddenly? I mean you are on the still server right, so the "good players" fr�n wotlk must still be in cata right?

Oooh the joy.

I don't really understand what you are saying there. I'll just answer your questions to my best.

1) They are not playing WoW right now, because it's too easy and more farm-oriented then ever.
2) They aren't bad now, those who haven't quit again are farming and AoE festing the heroics for gear.
3) No, it didn't, because you see, the idiots like yourself are still stuck in normals, while the good players are AoE-festing on heroics.
4) See #2, idiot.
5) That makes no sense, please go to the elementary school to learn debating and writing normal responses, I don't understand half the crap you are writing.

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After reading your post I've got the feeling that you know NOTHING about the game, NOTHING about the lore and NOTHING about.. well anything related to the game. Clueless is a good word. And clueless people usualy whine about things they dont know.

I am glad that 3 of your friends quit the game. I hope they're friends quit the game, and they're friends too. And you aswell obviously, because me and everyone else don't want these morons in our daily heroic .

This expansion is the biggest and best by far. The idiots will get stuck in 5mans for a while and whine about how easier and more fun it was before. And quit, just like your friends did. Which is exactly where the rest of us want you : ) out of azeroth

Edit: TLDR You are a moron, join your friends =)

Well done! So giving constructive criticsm means you don't know anything about anything. Well arguemented.

"This expansion is the biggest and best by far" - Wrong, it's not the biggest expansion. There are 5 zones and a couple of new PvP areas with less dungeons then ever before. If you include the shattering in here you are a moron, since that is not part of the Cataclysm expansion, that is the original Vanilla game.

So, let us get some facts straightened out. You really seem to believe I'm sitting here without ever played Cataclysm and coming up with random crap to write on a forum. Ever thought why I even wrote that post to begin with?

As I said before, keep your head up your ass and enjoy the very engaging raids, I'm sure you'll bring the first boss down soon enough since that is as you said catered to the normal players.

Oh, and one of the last things I'd like to tell you, you're the biggest idiot I've seen on these forums since that kid that said "YOU CANT DO THAT BIG HEALS", which I proved to him is possible.

I will probably join my friends, because I'm quite sick of boosting people like yourself that have reached the heroic dungeon gear level restriction by using PvP gear, believing everything is perfect right now and everything is fun and balanced. I'm sick of trolls like you in here, I'm sick of trolls like yourself in the game, and I hope to god you stay in this game to enjoy your so-much missed old vanilla days with the bugs, because they are actually up now.

"TLDR" - You're the idiot here. You're providing the biggest bullshit counter-arguements I've seen, you're insulting and having no respect for anyone else on these forums even though you had the chance to lighten up and zip your tiny cock up instead of showing it around.

I hate people like you, I would stab you in the face if I could, over and over, until there would be nothing left of you. Enjoy the Cataclysm, the buggy shit with practically nothing.

#1361505 by DjStorm (Power User) at 2010-12-19 21:03:31 (2 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report]

Kpoof wrote:

guess what, 80% of the player base agrees with me on this.

Guess what, 80% of the player base are retards.

Your `arguments` are so childish and far from the truth I won`t even bother.

#1361512 by unknown[397565] at 2010-12-19 21:44:26 (2 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report]

"boost people", why dont you party with your guild then? ....clearly in random you can normally get people who didn't even play a certain dungeon yet and have no idea how it is, I don't mind, but if you do...stay away from it

now pvp gear, I know resi is fucking useless and that also means a stat less..but:
pvp gear has actually better stats than the actual lvl34x drops from Heroics itself, as long as you at least reforge to be hit capped...not optimal of course, but good enough specially considering that the higher lvl and therefore higher primary stats on the item offsets the lack or 1 secondary stat. Only role where it makes a real difference ofc is tanking, where those 2 secondary stats should be parry/dodge instead of mastery/haste/crit chance and resilience (in fact you dont go tanking with that). And of course that's only temporary for the first few runs until you get some pve pieces.

I wonder where the fuck you get the gear before heroics since the rare blue drops in normal mode are mostly lower than lvl33x with few rare exceptions and there isn't a crafted set high enough for heroics, only a couple pieces...at least for plate users.

Other than that I just completed Halls of Originations Heroic and Shadowfang Keep HC, you aren't going to finish that unless you know what to do...didn't seem easy to me, then again, once you know what to do it all becomes 'easier', obviously, that's pve for you, you're just beating some script. BTW, completed in almost full pvp set (hit capped), without any complain whatsoever and it actually was a guild run with 4 from the same guild/server, they could kick me any time if i was inadequate, dps are fast to replace anyway.

In fact I got a breastplate there (from HoO) thats pretty much worse than the current starter pvp set breastplate, aside from having some more crit, rest of the stats are way lower. So if Heroics drops that crap, than there's no way someone coming from normal mode can have any better...so you shouldn't expect to find people perfectly geared in random heroics, specially so early at release. I find it mind-numbing idiotic to expect that.

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"TLDR" - You're the idiot here. You're providing the biggest bullshit counter-arguements I've seen, you're insulting and having no respect for anyone else on these forums even though you had the chance to lighten up and zip your tiny cock up instead of showing it around.

I hate people like you, I would stab you in the face if I could, over and over, until there would be nothing left of you. Enjoy the Cataclysm, the buggy shit with practically nothing.

quoted for awesomeness

#1361546 by chrisrob Donor

(Power User) at 2010-12-19 23:41:41 (2 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report]

Yeah, Kpoof, no. You seem hostile. Go cool off?

On related news; I love this expansion. Where ever I turn, I see horde vs. alliance. It's fucking brilliant!

It's like all the warmongering incited a war, and it's World of Warcraft again! <3

#1361547 by GettoSmurF (User) at 2010-12-19 23:44:53 (2 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report]

If you stab someone in the face over and over, how is there suddenly nothing left of that person after a certain amount of stabs, one would think you'd have to focus other parts of the body as well, and then you'd still have to dispose of the splattered body parts somehow.
Seems like quite a feat to me.

#1361592 by Xiggiduna (User) at 2010-12-20 04:38:10 (2 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report]

Yay a reply : ). Everyone else here reading. This might seem like alot, but its moslty quotations from him. I have just taken the time to correct him so that others don't read it and actually belive it. So please do take the time to read it =).

What I did with your post was obliterate every single part of it to show you and the people on TB how little you know of this game and that you are just another whining little kid : ). And to not confuse other people that might read that and actually belive it. You were not right in anything you said, and I will take my time to obliterate this one too =) yay
I will highlight the nonsense he writes, so it makes it easier for the rest of the folks to se what a moron you are.

Kpoof wrote:

Yes, it's amazing that Deathwing has a backstory about him doesn't it?

It is! I had to point it out for you kiddo since you didnt know, and I quote "LOLOL I R DARGON ASPECT OF DETH COMING VERY CONVENIENT RIGHT NOW FOR NO FUCKING REASON!".

: )

Kpoof wrote:

Right, so farming for a Sword that has a 1% drop rate, which takes you many many weeks and month to probably not even get is worth wasting my time on? Yes, that's the best weapon right now except the ACTUAL RAID CONTENT, item level 359 you know? And no, it will not be the best two-hand for a long time, it will get replaced soon. Get your facts straight troll. "And that's just one item out of many" - yeah, from raiding. Amazing isn't it?

It's amazing that you don't atleast try to look things up before you say them, since you clearly don't know them. Use google for gods sake : ) you'll look less of a retard then.

So let's destroy this nonsense aswell : )

Zinrokh is not a 1% drop rate. You can craft it at 450+ archeology from Troll artifacts.
And I quote for awsomeness " Yes, that's the best weapon right now except the ACTUAL RAID CONTENT, item level 359 you know? "

Zinrokh is better than any other 2 handed ilvl 359 raid weapon. And it is ilvl 359, just like the raid items from 10/25man : ). And I repeat, how the hell do you not look this up? Just google if you dont know it
: ) better than looking like an ass when I'm done with you!

Here's the mighty zinrokh. Avaible by anyone above 450 archeology. You dont need to be the best player in the world, or have 24 other people to help you get it : ). Simple as taking candy from a baby.

Zin'rokh, Destroyer of Kpoof

Here's the best weapon that drops from raiding content.

Shalug'doom, the Axe of Unmaking

Take your time. Don't rush, try to figure out which one is better : ).
This pretty axe is droped by the END boss Cho'gall in an raid instance called The Bastion of Twilight.

If you want a better 2 handed weapon than Zin'rokh from raiding, you might want to join ensidia or paragon when they have cleared hardmodes. : ) but for now, you and the rest of the people, zin'rokh will be a very very good weapon to have. And not to mention its Bind on Account. So if you have an alt that reaches 85, it can instantly use it : ).

I don't think I have to explaine any further : ) you have been served once again.

Kpoof wrote:

Healing is broken right now, and guess what, 80% of the player base agrees with me on this. There's NO skill in healing right now, either you manage perfectly or you fuck up by using the wrong heal, and it's way too penalizing. That's not how healing should be. It has to be brought down to the same faceroll level as DPSing or tanking. You see, DPSing and tanking are quite faceroll due to what, no responsibilities right now. Threat is in theory not even in the game due to the bad balancing, and holding a couple of CCs is hard..?

So lets say you have skill and don't use the wrong heal. You'll manange just fine then : ). Wow you really are as stupid as you write. And pulling these 80% base numbers out of your ass is exactly what a clueless child would do =).
And I have no idea what you are talking about threat and dps. I bet you don't know either.

Kpoof wrote:

Now, again. Yes, it was rush and mash heals and dmg, and your kind of people complained. Now it's rush in, CCs and take out one target at a time. Now I complain, because it's too easy and too boring.

So lets break this out for the other people in here and I'd love a comment on this from others : ).
You are saying that it was easy before, when you ran through an instance without any care.
And now, your are saying its too easy because people have to CC a pack of 5mobs, kill one by one, re-sheep, re-shackle, re-whatever-cc-is-used and have a healer who can heal efficiently without going oom the first 10seconds.

You are whining because you think its hard. Otherwise you are a moron and have no idea what you are even talking about : ) which is probably true now that I look back on your previous statements.

Kpoof wrote:

I don't know how far into the game you are, but right now Lost City and BRC on heroic are AoE fests. Have you noticed this? Or have you been too busy having that head up your own ass? Tanks are running with 333 / 349 gear and AoEs are all over the place - nice attentionspan you got there. Or I could always say "Wrong.".

Not to brag again but, I was server first 85 and server first 85 death knight. I did it in about 9 hours, slept for a while and then whent straight to work. Coming back home I saw people still lvling that started at the same time as me : ).
I am 12/12 in 25man atm. Hardmodes are unlocked and we are going on wednesday. Hopefully won't work too late so I don't miss out on any of our guild first kills =). Been playing since beta back in 2004. I don't wanna go and say that I know everything about wow, but I know alot more than an ignorant kid that throws out information that isnt true and isnt even checked up on by himself before he sais them.

And again you complain about tanks running around AoEing all of the place. This is exactly what you wanted to have, and what wotlk had. You said yourself that your tired of having to CC everything and killing trash one by one. That it was too easy??So whats hard about this AoE..what..I'm..uhm...Are you READING what you are TYPING?

Quote Kpoof from above:
Now, again. Yes, it was rush and mash heals and dmg, and your kind of people complained. Now it's rush in, CCs and take out one target at a time. Now I complain, because it's too easy and too boring.

? Da Vinci wouldn't be able to decipher this one.

Kpoof wrote:

I guess if you would even play this game, you would realise that the presentation of this shit is the worst done in any game. New players who have no idea who DW is have no clue about him even after doing the freaking loremaster achievements, that's how bad it is. I'll people like you and red shirt guy drown in your orgasms of the knowledge of the lore. Enjoy your pants-wetting. I know enough about the lore to know how bad the presentation of it is in this expansion.

Where are these infos coming from? : D
I have the loremaster achivment myself. Before and after the shattering. Every quest now is about deathwing and the shattering. I grew almost bored and tired of all the lore and information about both deathwing and what happend to the people around.

Kpoof wrote:

Tell you what, I'll let you sit there in your crib sucking your thumb, because you obviously have no idea about this expansion judging by your responses to my statements (note - statements, not opinions, do you know that word?)

The only thing you have tried to do is insult me, seeing you know nothing about the game : ) But here you are, whining about the unknown.

Kpoof wrote:

Xiggiduna wrote:

I don't really understand what you are saying there. I'll just answer your questions to my best.

1) They are not playing WoW right now, because it's too easy and more farm-oriented then ever.

Really? Its more farm-oriented then ever? : ) Blizzard implemented a 4000 justice point cap, a 1250 valor points cap (A week)and so on. Just so that people cant farm things until they have everything. They even implemented a Conqest points cap of 1343. You win 3 rated BG games and you are capped.

So once again, you are soooo very very wrong. Why do you pull this shit out of your ass? If you are a ignorant moron, check it up. Don't just pull it out of your ass. Try to atleast fool people that you might actually have some brain somewhere.

Yes I'm giving the idiot tips on how to function properly : ).

Kpoof wrote:

2) They aren't bad now, those who haven't quit again are farming and AoE festing the heroics for gear.

Quote Kpoof from above:
Now, again. Yes, it was rush and mash heals and dmg, and your kind of people complained. Now it's rush in, CCs and take out one target at a time. Now I complain, because it's too easy and too boring.

?

: D idiot

Kpoof wrote:

3) No, it didn't, because you see, the idiots like yourself are still stuck in normals, while the good players are AoE-festing on heroics.

Kpoof wrote:

4) See #2, idiot.

Checked it, and still laughing : D

Kpoof wrote:

5) That makes no sense, please go to the elementary school to learn debating and writing normal responses, I don't understand half the crap you are writing.

What I've learned about debating is that when a person does not have a good argument they usually start insulting the person because of lack of knowledge. Which you are doing : ) and I'm just happily smiling.

Kpoof wrote:

"This expansion is the biggest and best by far" - Wrong, it's not the biggest expansion. There are 5 zones and a couple of new PvP areas with less dungeons then ever before. If you include the shattering in here you are a moron, since that is not part of the Cataclysm expansion, that is the original Vanilla game.

Wrong again. The shattering is the expansion. New players don't have to pay to experiance the shattering because it has already happend and can't be changed back to the old world.
An expansion is an updated version of the game. With more contend added, and other conted changed. I don't recall orgrimmar looking this funny, hence an expansion. Biggest so far.
Blizzard is even saying that this is their biggest expansion. I can't imagine how much work was need to be put in to remake the entire world. Just making the world a flyable place is an enormous task.
And here comes a kid and says that it's nothing. What do you know about anything? =) Get a job you hippie

Kpoof wrote:

You really seem to believe I'm sitting here without ever played Cataclysm and coming up with random crap to write on a forum. Ever thought why I even wrote that post to begin with?

Yes. You are writing about things you dont know. You are making things up from letf to right without thinking of the consequences. And that being, looking like a total fool.

Kpoof wrote:

As I said before, keep your head up your ass and enjoy the very engaging raids, I'm sure you'll bring the first boss down soon enough since that is as you said catered to the normal players.

They were tons of fun. Can't remember when the last time I had this much fun in wow : ). Blizzard did a great job!

Kpoof wrote:

I will probably join my friends, because I'm quite sick of boosting people like yourself that have reached the heroic dungeon gear level restriction by using PvP gear, believing everything is perfect right now and everything is fun and balanced. I'm sick of trolls like you in here, I'm sick of trolls like yourself in the game, and I hope to god you stay in this game to enjoy your so-much missed old vanilla days with the bugs, because they are actually up now.

Trust me, I'm boosting you : ). As a matter of fact, I'm boosting your knowledge about wow right now : ).
I don't belive things are perfect, I play the game and I understand it. I know what I'm doing and how to do it

. That is the differance between me and you.
I will enjoy myself in this game! Thats why I bought it : ) its very fun thank you for asking.

You should try it =)

Kpoof wrote:

If it makes you sleep better, sure

. Again just insulting, this is what a person without a good argument always does.

Kpoof wrote:

I hate people like you, I would stab you in the face if I could, over and over, until there would be nothing left of you. Enjoy the Cataclysm, the buggy shit with practically nothing.

I'd love that =) And thanks once again, I will enjoy cataclysm!

So once again this dragon has been slayed! From archeology, to lore, to heroics, to raiding, and to whatever else mentioned. My job here is done! : ) And it was a pleasure doing it. If I missed anything (lots of text) then please don't be afraid to say so =).
I would advise to get real facts next time. Or you'd just make yourself look like a moron again.
I appologise for all the smileys, but I enjoyed every minute of this : ))

You have been served.

Last edited by Xiggiduna at 2010-12-20 04:54:45

#1361608 by Snuffsis (Power User) at 2010-12-20 06:42:41 (2 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report]

God damnit.
We were gonna try Halfus yesterday and what happens?
We get the LAMEST combination of drakes possible...
Fucking Slate, Nether and Storm rider, seriously...
What were they thinking about this combination, it's practically impossible, atleast for a new raiding guild that's just starting to raid...

#1361609 by Xiggiduna (User) at 2010-12-20 06:46:32 (2 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report]

TLDR:For anyone that didnt bother to read that.

Kpoof:Archeology is crap. Just crappy items anyways.
Not true at all : ). For example, the two-handed sword is better than any 10/25 normal raid weapon.
Lots of fun gadgets,pets and mounts : )

Kpoff:Lore sucks, just some dragon, no lore to back it up at all.
Not true at all : ). Theres plenty of lore behind it.

Kpoff:Healing,tanking,dpsing is broken
Nope : )

Kpoff:Cataclysm is not an expansion. It's smallest shit ever
Quite the opposite : ).

Kpoff:Heroics now are just CC and kill one mob at a time. Not fun at all
Yea we actually have to play it. It's fine if you don't like it =)

Kpoff:Heroics now are just AoE and rush farming. Not fun at all
Make up your mind : <

The end : )

Hope that clarifies it for the rest : ).

#1361620 by CrazyGorila (Power User) at 2010-12-20 08:09:32 (2 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report]

Xiggiduna wrote:

Just making the world a flyable place is an enormous task.

Not exactly true.
It probably just took a programmer to change a FALSE to a TRUE or something along that line.

#1361623 by Xiggiduna (User) at 2010-12-20 08:27:11 (2 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report]

CrazyGorila wrote:

Xiggiduna wrote:

Just making the world a flyable place is an enormous task.

Not exactly true.
It probably just took a programmer to change a FALSE to a TRUE or something along that line.

Actually I recall reading about it. Thats why I mentioned it : ). They said it was a huge task to make it flyable since the world didnt support you going more than x amount of feet up in the air in various places. They had to redo alot of shit =). Not to mention all of the invisible walls everywere that were never meant to be seen.

Ever wonder why blizzard kept saying for the past years before wotlk that there won't be flying mounts in azeroth because it was going to be too much work to redo everything? : )

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#1361632 by CrazyGorila (Power User) at 2010-12-20 09:59:43 (2 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report]

Xiggiduna wrote:

CrazyGorila wrote:

Xiggiduna wrote:

Just making the world a flyable place is an enormous task.

Not exactly true.
It probably just took a programmer to change a FALSE to a TRUE or something along that line.

It really isn't a lot of work to add X-amount of height when your already working on new terrain models, which they were getting payed to do at the point and get one of the programmers to change the status on the check.
So really it wasn't a lot of work to make it flyable, as that was only a minor thing to do while your reworking almost every terrain model.

But ill agree it would have been a lot of work before, because they would have to rework the existing terrain models and people weren't really getting payed to work on the old models.
Just saying you would have made a better argument if you said that reworking the world is an enormous task by itself, without adding the new zones.

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#1361642 by Snuffsis (Power User) at 2010-12-20 10:23:51 (2 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report]

Flying is exactly more than just changing some values.
But like you said it's even more than that as well since they had to change the terrain because it looked like crap up ontop of the mountains since you weren't supposed to see that anyway.

#1361643 by Xiggiduna (User) at 2010-12-20 10:25:25 (2 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report]

CrazyGorila wrote:

Just saying you would have made a better argument if you said that reworking the world is an enormous task by itself, without adding the new zones.

Well yes ofcourse :p. Not calling it an expansion is just retarded ^^

#1361652 by CrazyGorila (Power User) at 2010-12-20 10:34:49 (2 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report]

Xiggiduna wrote:

CrazyGorila wrote:

Just saying you would have made a better argument if you said that reworking the world is an enormous task by itself, without adding the new zones.

Well yes ofcourse :p. Not calling it an expansion is just retarded ^^

Yeah, i dont know what Kpoof is on about neither. :shrug:

#1361793 by Akro (Power User) at 2010-12-20 21:17:11 (2 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report]

It's a lava camel bear!

What has been seen cannot be unseen.

#1361952 by Snuffsis (Power User) at 2010-12-21 13:42:31 (2 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report]

Akro wrote:

It's a lava camel bear!

http://i55.tinypic.com/2zh19jq.png

What has been seen cannot be unseen.

I don't get it, i can't see anything except a pit of lava and the sulfuron spire. :S

#1361968 by Spaderace (Power User) at 2010-12-21 14:36:35 (2 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report]

Just wanted to point out that Holy paladins are a BLAST to level and pvp with.

If you are bored, roll one, requires level 30+ to be viable (You dont have access to Denounce till then) But after that, wow.

Just don't expect the godness to continue at level 83+, after that they require a shitload of skills to play, as their nuke doesn't scale aswell as peoples health and such.

Still awesome though, =)

#1361977 by KhaS86 (Power User) at 2010-12-21 15:17:54 (2 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report]

So, can anyone tell me what is the new levelling like ? Did they change the old areas ? Are quests the same old stuff ?
What about the graphic revamp ? What do you guys think about that ?

#1361982 by DjStorm (Power User) at 2010-12-21 15:56:27 (2 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report]

Did a few of the revamped zones while leveling my mage and the new quests are so fun and different. 1000 Needles is a blast.

#1361986 by GettoSmurF (User) at 2010-12-21 16:15:42 (2 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report]

KhaS86 wrote:

So, can anyone tell me what is the new levelling like ? Did they change the old areas ? Are quests the same old stuff ?
What about the graphic revamp ? What do you guys think about that ?

They kept a bunch of old quests but changed most at least a bit and made the questline more clear they also made the transition between zones clear so you basically just follow the quests all the way to Outland without running out of them in some spot and going "What now?".
They changed every zone at least a part of it and in some cases they changed it a lot, they also added new quest hubs and flightpaths in all zones to make it smoother and more enjoyable.

I leveled my warrior after the shattering and I enjoyed pretty much every second of it while before the patch I had leveled so many characters that there was pretty much no joy in doing it again so they've had to do something right as it felt much more fun now

#1361996 by deathadder (Power User) at 2010-12-21 17:12:43 (2 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report]

Xiggiduna wrote:

This is the best and biggest expansion blizzard has released. Only a TBC;er or Wotlk;er would maybe think its crap.

I agree with your first part entirely and the part about a "wrath nab" but i joined in TBC as did alot of the people i play with and we love the fact its all changed and instances require CC again and all that, no more faceroll, for now ;o

#1361997 by KhaS86 (Power User) at 2010-12-21 17:13:20 (2 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report]

That sounds good. And you talking about "what now?" moments made me smile: we all had those.

What about the 80-85 part ? Are the new quests fun or is it a grind fest ?
Once you're at the 85 cap, is the game the same old thing: dungeons, raids, BGs, arenas ?
I guess my question is would it be interesting for someone who played a lot at TBC and a little bit at WOTLK to try out this new expansion ?

#1362080 by duuuh (User) at 2010-12-21 20:40:08 (2 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report]

KhaS86 wrote:

yes it would. as you haven't experienced the changes in the WOTLK, in cata there's a lot of new stuff

in 85 it's dungeons, raids or pvp. there are a lot of new battlegrounds also. just try, it won't hurt.

#1362081 by KhaS86 (Power User) at 2010-12-21 20:45:31 (2 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report]

duuuh wrote:

KhaS86 wrote:

yes it would. as you haven't experienced the changes in the WOTLK, in cata there's a lot of new stuff

in 85 it's dungeons, raids or pvp. there are a lot of new battlegrounds also. just try, it won't hurt.

Actually I played at the beginning of WOTLK in Naxx and Malygos. Skipped Ulduar but did the champions hall (or something like that) and the first bosses of the Citadel.