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#516978 by xyz (VIP) at 2006-01-19 13:08:05 (7 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report]

Oh dear!

Firefox 's Ping Attribute: Useful or Spyware?

Not that I'm waving the banner of Opera here

#519285 by unknown[39422] at 2006-01-22 16:21:25 (7 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report]

FF. I'll try Opera someday.

#520273 by kristoficus Donor

(The crust on a pizza) at 2006-01-23 17:35:33 (7 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report]

Firefox with my extensions...IETab being one such extension.

#520725 by unknown[902] at 2006-01-24 01:43:31 (7 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report]

xyz wrote:

Oh dear!

Firefox 's Ping Attribute: Useful or Spyware?

Not that I'm waving the banner of Opera here

Funny you should mention that, since it's a wonderful example of why an Open Source browser is so useful.

There will either be an extension to disable the ping attribute, or custom builds with it disabled will be made. If Opera decides to implement the ping attribute, it wouldn't be a non-issue, it would be a problem.

#530485 by kidujp (Power User) at 2006-02-02 16:23:59 (7 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report]

Here's to all the FF fanboys.. FFS, i can't care less abt me getting attacked thru my browser's securityhole, most people including the ones posting here uses a firewall and hopefully some common sense while browsing. in my many years of using the net... i've never been infected by a serious virus.

But the thing that affects everybody when it comes to browsers today is the mem usage ...So here you go...

There's just one tab open at the moment. there were 8 tabs open before and the mem usage went to 120 Mb but when the tabs are closed the bloody thing won't release the memory. I've seen it go as high as 200-300Mb with many 15 tabs open and with pictures on the pages. This is not just me ...lots of people have complained abt this.

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Now here's Opera with 16 tabs open , that too with all amazon pages(all diff pages) which gets FF's mem usage into the 200Mb+ mark. Opera uses just 25Mb.

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Now here's IE 7 with 12 tabs...mostly just google pages...32 Mb.

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One of the many many reasons why i stick to opera mostly along witht he fact that it doesn't act wierd when i'm streaming a video or audio file. :-)

#530519 by xosemp (VIP) at 2006-02-02 17:00:47 (7 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report]

I don't know what kind of f***ed up systems you guys have, but I'm currently browsing with 9 tabs and 14 extensions in Firefox and the memory usage is at 36 MB...

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Maybe you should find what problem you have on your computer that makes FF get that much memory instead of blaming it. The fact is that mine has NEVER gone beyond the 50MB milestone, no matter how many tabs I have open (well, maybe if I open 50 tabs, but there's no need for that many tabs at the same time)

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#530602 by unknown[62534] at 2006-02-02 18:30:02 (7 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report]

Congrats xose...

U have the best sytem in the world for FF use.

I've never seen it use less then 60-100Mb memory with or without extensions on any system. and we use it in all the system in the whole of the university.

#531129 by Matt865 Donor

(VIP) at 2006-02-03 09:12:55 (7 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report]

RAM usage is always high on my system too, 78MB with two tabs right now. Most people I know seem to suffer this problem with FF and countless people on this forum do too. I think your may be the exception xose, rather than the general rule.

#535510 by lewis33 (User) at 2006-02-08 11:23:37 (7 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report]

A NEW BETA VERSION OF OPERA HAS BEEN RELEASED! Version 9.0 BETA 2

you can get it here

http://snapshot.opera.com/windows/o90p2_8212.exe

EVERYONE should give it a go, Opera was already great but they have now made it even better

check this link out for the changelog

http://labs.opera.com/news/2006/02/07/2/

GIVE IT A TRY!

#537776 by unknown[902] at 2006-02-11 05:48:26 (7 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report]

The FF memory leak in windows is a non-priority for the Devs last I heard, they think (perhaps correctly) that nobody really cares about memory usage. It will, however, eventually get fixed, perhaps once they get to version 2.0

#537833 by xosemp (VIP) at 2006-02-11 08:46:05 (7 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report]

Ubitsa wrote:

You can also help developers finding the leaks ;-)

http://www.squarefree.com/2006/01/13/me … tion-tool/

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#545704 by unknown[4679] at 2006-02-20 10:32:13 (7 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report]

heres a bunch of screenshots of IE7Beta2. Its pretty sweet. Has a lot of cool features, although its still FF for me. If you really wanna keep using IE for now tho, I'd suggest Maxthon. Its really cool. Blows regular IE out of the water, although FF users will find it akward, cuz of the hotkeys.

Screenshots of IE7Beta2

#545821 by unknown[133965] at 2006-02-20 14:37:32 (7 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report]

All browsers have their pros and cons.

IE6: Pro- Will show almost any coded website. Meaning it isnt strict on the way you code website/applications. If you read up on developer forums, the most frequently asked questions is: "Why wont it work in firefox". No built in download mamanger is great. More compatible. Con- Security holes that will never be plugged. Not many features, and not easily expandable.

Firefox/Mozilla/Netscape: Pro- Great features, easily customizable, Tabbed browsing(though IE7 has that now). Less security holes than IE. Will actually force developpers(even me) to build more strict coded sites. Loads pages and images faster. Compatible with 99.9% of current web technologies. Con- Not many. The download mamangers are a nuisence, and cant be disabled(to my knowledge). Not all the older websites will look good or work properly in these browsers.

Opera/Others: I dont have much experience with others. Opera/ Slim browser mostly. Each have the same strict rules with code, and some cool features that the mozilla familly dont have.

I personally use FF and IE6. The only reason I have other browsers installed is to test out my programming.

#550015 by unknown[121327] at 2006-02-24 13:59:15 (7 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report]

ONLY MOZILLA FF!

i use it long time and i addict for that

#552166 by norsken Donor

(Power User) at 2006-02-26 22:30:59 (7 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report]

I love firefox, my only problem is that I can't get the multiple bookmarkfields to work

#554031 by unknown[129081] at 2006-03-01 04:39:35 (7 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report]

yea FF takes up a lot of ram, but i use a Ram freerer software where it decreases the amount of ram used by the comp :/ works

#555664 by unknown[92724] at 2006-03-02 22:48:42 (7 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report]

Mozilla FF <3

#555676 by SaveFerris Donor

(Cavia porcellus) at 2006-03-02 23:05:22 (7 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report]

ignore this, i missread something

sorry

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#555688 by unknown[28019] at 2006-03-02 23:27:45 (7 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report]

I dunno about that guy using opera with tonnes of tabs and only 25mb of ram

Opera always uses lots of ram for me with lots of tabs open-it seems to start out low (around 25-30mb), then slowly increases the longer its open-right now with 9 tabs open, its using 80mb of ram with VM Size of 120mb

#555701 by gullf1sk (Power User) at 2006-03-02 23:49:22 (7 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report]

With 3 gigs of ram, i could care less how much memory my browser uses

edit: well i had to check.

With about 35ish tabs up in firefox, it used a little over 33mb ram.

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#576215 by Ihmemies (Power User) at 2006-03-28 20:25:35 (7 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report]

Btw, it's a waste of memory NOT TO USE IT. Why buy memory, if it's so frickin important use it as little amount of possible? I don't really care, as long as all the apps I use work. And anything below 1GB is outdated with current memory prices.

#576224 by xosemp (VIP) at 2006-03-28 20:40:29 (7 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report]

Firefox vs Internet Explorer memory comparison :whistle:

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#576238 by Matt865 Donor

(VIP) at 2006-03-28 21:04:37 (7 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report]

That link 404s for me.

edit: Ah, it's missing an 'o' in oomny.

Link again: http://oomny.com/2006/03/24/internet-ex … rison.html

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#585542 by unknown[5641] at 2006-04-11 21:20:16 (7 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report]

This is so much down to personal choice it's difficult to see how you can argue which is better. Personally I'm a FF man myself. I tried opera for a while but just didn't get on with it that much and found myself using IE more. When FF was released I moved to that and haven't looked back. I like IE7 though. There's a fair amount of potential in IE7 and I hope that by it's official release it's a good browser.

Memory just isn't an issue for me. I've never had any slowdown because of the amont of tabs/windows I've got open, maybe that's just the way I use the PC. If there's any memory intensive aps running then I'm not normally browsing at the same time. I let those run when I'm not using it.

FF could be better about sloppy coding, it can be a bit fussy, but that's why standards are there. As designers move towards more standards driven web design this will be less of a problem. I'd rather the browser did what the code is meant to do instead of what it thinks the code should do. And if you can't be bothered to make sure you've written compliant code then do I want to see your website anyway.

Oh, apart from jadedvideo. How about a FF extensin that will allow sloppy code just for that site. ;-)

#586961 by unknown[3243] at 2006-04-13 18:37:59 (7 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report]

The high memory usage is due to the fast forward-back feature, Firefox stores the loaded page instances from before in the memory, theres some variable in about:config to tweak this or even disable it.
I'll try to find it.

There it is:
browser. sessionhistory. max_total_viewers Integer

Determines the maximum number of content viewers to cache for "bfcache" (fast back/forward navigation). Default value is -1 (calculate based on available memory). All values less than 0 are equivalent.

Here's another interesting entry:

browser. cache. memory. capacity Integer

Determines how the browser uses RAM for cache.
-1 (default): Automatically set size of capacity as a percentage of physical RAM
0: disables the memory cache device entirely
(n): Set the maximum RAM used to n KB.

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