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(Ms.OneOneNine) at 2005-10-04 14:29:26 (7 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report]

As there are so many different threads for discussing the different browsers i figured we should have just the one thread and keep all the browser talk in one place :-)

#401869 by unknown[109790] at 2005-10-04 14:30:06 (7 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report]

Firefox > All.

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#401877 by fx2050 Donor

(Power User) at 2005-10-04 14:35:34 (7 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report]

still use IE, never any issues, never swamped with crap, pretty easy to maintain and as support at work it helps to keep updated with its knowledge.

FF had some great features but just didnt like it just being an updated netscape, had horrible grey image place tags and started juttering about if pressed history or favourites, that and unable to display many basic IE designed sites.

maybe i will try again on another release

#401878 by total Donor

(Power User) at 2005-10-04 14:36:23 (7 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report]

<3 FF

i like the fact you can costumize it to whatever you want

#401930 by unknown[902] at 2005-10-04 15:28:37 (7 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report]

I think that ultimately, assuming MS doesn't screw up IE 7 majorly, FF will remain a niche product, only for "ethusiasts" etc.

However, I don't think that's a bad thing - FF development is already working well, so it doesn't really need to grow any more. MS, even with IE7, is playing catchup to FF/Opera - so there's really no possibility(in the next 5 years, say) of FF being "behind" in browser tech - it will most likely be a leader.

In this discussion, I think we should stay away from "which browser is faster", because unless you're comparing lynx to IE/FF/Opera, speed depends more on how good your machine is than anything else.

#401935 by haggeluring Donor

(Power User) at 2005-10-04 15:33:51 (7 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report]

fx2050 wrote:

FF had some great features but just didnt like it just being an updated netscape

you are so wrong, Mozilla & Fx är build upon a new codebase separate from Netscape. The "new" netscape is build upon Mozilla and then Firefox just with more bugs and other useless crap.

#401944 by xosemp (VIP) at 2005-10-04 15:43:47 (7 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report]

fx2050 wrote:

still use IE)

Gotta love that "still" :yes:

Firefox rocks!

#402244 by unknown[101288] at 2005-10-04 19:46:45 (7 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report]

FF was freezing way too many times opening a page where is a lot of posts or a lot of images. So I tried Opera. And I must say I don't miss FF at all.

#404092 by unknown[67889] at 2005-10-05 21:46:41 (7 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report]

I've been testing and comparing firefox and opera for some time now and they both seem to be very good choices. However I can see why some people only like the other one. They are pretty different and have their own strengths. But here are my opinions with +/- -charts for both of them according to my experience.

Opera:
+ Almost always very fast
+ A little more customizable (by default)
+ The sidebar is better (I don't use it much though)
+ Good default menus
+ Downloading files
- Lack of extensions
- Lack of proper adblocking (Tried at least 3 different methods and they a) didn't work very well/at all or b) slowed everything down too much)
- Occasional weird bugs and 'freezes'
- Lags almost as much as firefox while loading heavy content
- Printing tools/implementation
- Loading indication
- Some pages take forever to load or they don't show up properly

Firefox:
+ Numerous extensions/themes (easy to install, configure & use)
+ Adblock extension
+ Usually very fast
+ Bookmarking
- Slows down while opening many tabs fast
- Not much options/features by default
- Can seriously lag/freeze for a few seconds while loading heavy content
- Downloading many files can get buggy

Maybe I will add more later.
I'm currently using both but mostly firefox because of the extensions and it just feels better in general. They are both very good browsers. If you're not familiar with them, give them a try.

#404121 by unknown[110216] at 2005-10-05 22:02:50 (7 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report]

Gotta love FF

I used netscape... but prefer FF. IE is not my thing... but some sites require it

#404134 by unknown[67728] at 2005-10-05 22:11:02 (7 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report]

strokey wrote:

Firefox > All.

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#404141 by demagh (User) at 2005-10-05 22:13:49 (7 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report]

@mauno

nice way and nice details .. but i have to oppose u with some stuff:
- Occasional weird bugs and 'freezes' "didnt experience that at all"
- Some pages take forever to load or they don't show up properly "strongly agree"
- "Close tab"-button on every tab "why is it a disadvantage??"

with FF:
agree with all u said and adding
-a really crappy inefficient download manager

Last edited by demagh at 2005-10-05 22:14:18

#404277 by unknown[67889] at 2005-10-05 23:31:44 (7 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report]

demagh wrote:

- "Close tab"-button on every tab "why is it a disadvantage??"

It is a disadvantage to me, I end up clicking it by accident often (call me clumsy or something). I don't really have any use for a button like that, because I close tabs with middle click. I didn't find an option to disable it either.
EDIT: Ok found the option, I feel so stupid now.

The occasional freezes with opera are weird and it might just be something with my system. Sometimes it just freezes while loading a site and stops responding... Sometimes it comes back to life after a while. It might be some plugin error with flash or java, but I can't remember what I was doing when it froze.

And I agree, the firefox download manager sucks.

#406446 by swent206 (Power User) at 2005-10-07 06:43:22 (7 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report]

mauno wrote:

demagh wrote:

- "Close tab"-button on every tab "why is it a disadvantage??"

Configured right?
Preferences/general, clear "show close button on each tab"

Loading indication = Progress Bar: View/Toolbars/Customise:off, Bottom, top, normal or simple display.

+ drag tabs to position
+ fit to window width"
+ better history, downloads, RSS, and notes.
+ faster

Last edited by swent206 at 2005-10-07 07:02:54

#406545 by elbako (Power User) at 2005-10-07 09:37:23 (7 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report]

IE!
Have FF too because i do some webdev and whant the things I do to look OK there too.
But for regular browsing i use IE.

#406577 by unknown[67889] at 2005-10-07 10:20:59 (7 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report]

swent206 wrote:

Configured right?
Preferences/general, clear "show close button on each tab"

Loading indication = Progress Bar: View/Toolbars/Customise:off, Bottom, top, normal or simple display.

Lol I'm so blind, how the hell did I miss that... Ok, I'll remove the minus from my earlier post.
And the loading indication stuff... I didn't find any good way to use it (IMO), it was always bad no matter how I configured it.

#406882 by swent206 (Power User) at 2005-10-07 15:42:12 (7 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report]

Mauno, it's not easy when every program has to have it's own terminology for each setting. We all should stick with the native Microsoft programs like normal people do.

#407057 by unknown[3671] at 2005-10-07 18:49:13 (7 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report]

Maxthon

Maxthon Internet Browser software is a powerful tabbed browser with a highly customizable interface. It is based on the Internet Explorer browser engine which means that what works in the IE browser will work the same in Maxthon tabbed browser but with many additional efficient features like...

Tabbed Browsing Interface
Mouse Gestures
Super Drag&Drop
Privacy Protection
AD Hunter
RSS Reader
IE Extensions Support
External Utility Bar
Skinning
And Much More to Explore...

i use it! very best of all of them imo!

#407077 by unknown[101288] at 2005-10-07 19:06:01 (7 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report]

Moshi wrote:

It is based on the Internet Explorer browser engine

That just doesn't sound cool.

:no:

#407199 by unknown[58058] at 2005-10-07 21:14:03 (7 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report]

fx2050 wrote:

unable to display many basic IE designed sites.
maybe i will try again on another release

Of course Firefox wont display those correctly...they're not sites that were written with w3C.org standarts in mind, those sites were written to support M$. That's sad though, M$ is a big company, but standarts are standarts, why make life harder...

#408334 by Wasp667 Donor

(Power User) at 2005-10-08 17:25:24 (7 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report]

mozillaZine wrote:

The final release of Firefox 1.5, which will be widely promoted to end-users, is scheduled for later this year.

Firefox 1.5 B2 is also available since yesterday.

#409224 by unknown[3671] at 2005-10-09 10:45:07 (7 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report]

Driv3n wrote:

Moshi wrote:

It is based on the Internet Explorer browser engine

That just doesn't sound cool.

:no:

#409230 by negge (Power User) at 2005-10-09 10:52:58 (7 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report]

I use FireFox too, most of my friends use it, it has many advantages, like bookmarking and all that. It doesn't lag for me or anything, seems like people blame their slow connections and overall slow computers on the browser.

#416927 by sago007 (Power User) at 2005-10-15 02:28:21 (7 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report]

I like FireFox, none of the pages I visit have any problems with it, but maybe it's just me who have stopped visiting these sites. Since they tried to target it to the public it has become a little to IE like but I can live with it, then I can customize it and thereby live without it.

Opera? I never really understood it's pop-up blocker. Some calls it smart because it doesn't block good pop-ups. In my opinion all non-requested pop-ups are evil. It's good for low-end machines

Used Internet Explorer for a few months back in 2001 it looked quite old back then.

#416947 by unknown[103608] at 2005-10-15 03:11:58 (7 years ago) - [Quote] - [Report]

Firefox all the way.

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