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#833796 by demagh (User) at 2007-09-16 03:18:02 (5 years ago) - [Report]

Xi0nic wrote:

Hey guys, my CPU has an unlocked multiplier.
Does this mean I can boot into bios and simply adjust the multiplier to OC? I'm led to believe that, but I don't have much experience with OCing and I'm not willing to test anything on my rig like that.

you may want to check my profile for the overclocking guides there.

#834352 by kachijs (User) at 2007-09-17 15:38:12 (5 years ago) - [Report]

oki.

got AMD Athlon X2 4800+ 65W BOX
brand new
Good Ram PRO 2x1Gb 900 PC7200 CL5, with D9GMH
msi am2 nf570
msi x1950pro pci-e 256mb gddr3
fsp grp/fortron atx-400pnf (400W)

is it possible to do something with this ?/

got 3dmark05 = 9667

#847640 by unknown[77823] at 2007-10-29 19:35:05 (5 years ago) - [Report]

kachijs wrote:

Definitly!! I've got my 4200+ at 2.8Ghz, so their might be some possibilities, especially with that 900Mhz ram of yours.

Just up the voltage to its max (DO MIND YOUR TEMPS!!!!), then start raising the fsb with 50mhz, and stresstest with orthos. If you reach the highest stable clock (running orthos for 8 hours is what I call stable) then start lowering the voltage. Do keep in mind that the sped of ram isn't going over 450mhz, or else your ram will make your system unstable!

Goodluck

(quite an old topic to post in, well what the hell)

#849294 by Tancoll (Power User) at 2007-11-02 23:17:27 (5 years ago) - [Report]

Jilles wrote:

kachijs wrote:

Stop talking shit.

He got D9GMH on the memorys. They are probably doing over DDR1200MHz (600MHz)

Try to raise fsb 2-3 at each time, use clockgen or some program. Find a program where you can change CPU volt to.

Run a few round in Super PI 1M 1,5mod. http://www.xtremesystems.com/superpi/

When you cant finnish the test, Rais voltage. When that doesnt help, wright down the result on a paper. Now set fsb aprox 20 lower then the max, voltage the same. Se if the system bootsup.

Thats how i would do it.

About the rams, use 2,2 - 2,3V active cooling (a fan blowing over them)
D9 GMH is klocking extremly well. Got a pair that does DDR1290 (645MHz) with 2,5V

If you can get them to run stable at around 350 - 400 MHz try timings 3-3-3-9 with 2,2 - 2,3v and a fan over them. AMD prefers timings over speed. Intel prefers speed over timings.

#849308 by demagh (User) at 2007-11-03 00:12:04 (5 years ago) - [Report]

Jilles wrote:

Just up the voltage to its max (DO MIND YOUR TEMPS!!!!)

you must be kidding ... right?!

@kachijs
take a look in my profile for my amd64 overclocking guide, might help you a bit.

Last edited by demagh at 2007-11-03 00:12:46

#853910 by bkrawk (Power User) at 2007-11-14 17:44:41 (5 years ago) - [Report]

just wondering, at what temp should i start worrying about my cpu overheating, right now it's at 30degrees idle and about 54 degrees at full load
amd 64 x2 5600+ @ 3.1ghz

Last edited by bkrawk at 2007-11-15 00:15:59

#858053 by unknown[190688] at 2007-11-25 05:05:42 (5 years ago) - [Report]

Just curious,

Are Dell Computers still un-overclockable or have they changed?

I'm not talking about the XPS but the normal Inspiron or the Vostro. Are those overclockable?

#858115 by mselo4ever4 (User) at 2007-11-25 09:02:16 (5 years ago) - [Report]

imo Dell Copmuters dont need to be overclocked bcoz u already get better perofmrance than pcs with the same specification

#858119 by fx2050 Donor

(Power User) at 2007-11-25 09:05:52 (5 years ago) - [Report]

mselo4ever4 wrote:

imo Dell Copmuters dont need to be overclocked bcoz u already get better perofmrance than pcs with the same specification

lmfao madness

dell are pretty basic pc's even there so called extreme editions

you will find no oc bios tools on a dell

#858134 by demagh (User) at 2007-11-25 09:48:09 (5 years ago) - [Report]

mselo4ever4 wrote:

imo Dell Copmuters dont need to be overclocked bcoz u already get better perofmrance than pcs with the same specification

prove it

#858428 by unknown[77969] at 2007-11-25 22:37:05 (5 years ago) - [Report]

mselo4ever4 wrote:

imo Dell Copmuters dont need to be overclocked bcoz u already get better perofmrance than pcs with the same specification

Talk about being a moron. :rolleyes:

#858461 by tijafasn (Power User) at 2007-11-25 23:25:34 (5 years ago) - [Report]

mselo4ever4 wrote:

imo Dell Copmuters dont need to be overclocked bcoz u already get better perofmrance than pcs with the same specification

lol..dell computers are basically all the shittiest (read: cheapest) parts that you can find.

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#858470 by mselo4ever4 (User) at 2007-11-25 23:33:58 (5 years ago) - [Report]

demagh wrote:

mselo4ever4 wrote:

imo Dell Copmuters dont need to be overclocked bcoz u already get better perofmrance than pcs with the same specification

prove it

well at least i was talking about my own experiment 2 years ago i had a 3.2GHz p4 pc and a friend of mine had another system he built with same cpu ram and gfx and we tested both pc and my pc was better in all tests

@ Ganth

well you are honored by being the first person i insult here on tb forums FUCK YOU
before you call people moron didnt you see the other 2 posts above shouldnt you wait and see my answer, i was talking about my own experiment not like you setting on pc and insulting people, next time say something useful by prooving that what i said is wrong or just keep you mouth SHUT!

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#858471 by unknown[13572] at 2007-11-25 23:34:06 (5 years ago) - [Report]

Considering that the youtube generation have vdeo guides for just about everything, I can't for the life of me find an overclocking video guide. I just can't read that much stuff in a single sitting, it bores me to tears.
Surely there's a video guide out there. I remember finding one on how to build a PC when I was new to it back then and that was far more useful than anything I'd read to that point.

So has anyone seen one?

#858483 by tijafasn (Power User) at 2007-11-26 00:00:28 (5 years ago) - [Report]

Quickblood wrote:

Overclocking doesnt even require a video. You usually just go into the bios and up the fsb in small increments until you start having problems. Unless you are planning on some serious overclocking, thats about it.

#858505 by demagh (User) at 2007-11-26 01:51:28 (5 years ago) - [Report]

@quickblood
video guides with overclocking are useless IMO

you should see someone with a similar system like yours if you don't want to read PM him with a question and just apply his settings on your system, voila .. headache is over

if you want to go through a minor understanding of the procedure, go read the one in my profile, will take around 10 minutes.

@mselo4ever4
manufacturers like dell, HP and such always check for stuff like:
- best memory compatibility
- best items out there with drivers support

before selling their products

but this can be done through a small research and user reviews combined by high quality products/brands.

Last edited by demagh at 2007-11-26 02:05:08

#858526 by unknown[77969] at 2007-11-26 04:17:16 (5 years ago) - [Report]

mselo4ever4 wrote:

demagh wrote:

mselo4ever4 wrote:

imo Dell Copmuters dont need to be overclocked bcoz u already get better perofmrance than pcs with the same specification

prove it

Rubbish.
You are by no means a tech expert based on your current and previous posts here on the hardware forum.
You doing your own "personal" test/experiment = grain of salt.

With all the pieces of shit software Dell installs on their systems, you're telling me that me building a system with the same specifications from top bottom will perform worse than Dell?
Bullshit.

Oh, and right back at you.

#858584 by mselo4ever4 (User) at 2007-11-26 10:20:30 (5 years ago) - [Report]

Ganth wrote:

mselo4ever4 wrote:

imo Dell Copmuters dont need to be overclocked bcoz u already get better perofmrance than pcs with the same specification

its not my problem if you misunderstand my post, i didnt say that building a system with same specification will perform worse than dell but with on stock speeds/settings Dell pcs gives better performance due to parts compatibility and other stuff but overclocking is another story, coz you even cant overclock non-xps dell pc.

and btw as you said its true that i'm not an expert, but at least i had something better that only googleing all time

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#858616 by unknown[77969] at 2007-11-26 12:47:45 (5 years ago) - [Report]

mselo4ever4 wrote:

Ganth wrote:

mselo4ever4 wrote:

imo Dell Copmuters dont need to be overclocked bcoz u already get better perofmrance than pcs with the same specification

It's not my problem if you don't know how to read. You went to school right?
Who was talking about overclocking? I said nothing about overclocking in my post. If you can see where in my post I mentioned it, then by all means quote it.

Anyone with a brain cell could build a system with the same specifications that will out perform a Dell with all the junk crap they pre-install on Dell PC's that slows performance.

#858838 by demagh (User) at 2007-11-26 20:33:20 (5 years ago) - [Report]

what is the cheapest most efficient cooler for a quad core available in the market?! i'd prefer something with no back plate

i know the thermalright ultra 120 .. around 55$-64$not cheap
i know the thermatake V1 .. looks like it has some issues with quad cores

my price range is 30$-45$ .. i need to drop temps 20c below stock cooler

any ideas?!

Last edited by demagh at 2007-11-26 20:36:42

#858891 by mselo4ever4 (User) at 2007-11-26 22:07:14 (5 years ago) - [Report]

Tuniq Tower 120 is about 45~50$

link 1
Link2

#858980 by demagh (User) at 2007-11-27 06:11:00 (5 years ago) - [Report]

mselo4ever4 wrote:

Tuniq Tower 120 is about 45~50$

link 1
Link2

thanks for the suggestion, but i had this once, and i don't buy the same thing twice

also it has a back plate which i consider nowadays is a pin in the a$$. It needed lapping as well, the base finishing wasn't as i expected.

Also, I had the freezer pro 7 before, was one of the nicest super low budget coolers I've ever had, though i doubt its performance with the heat coming from a quad core, and of course, i tried it before

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#859388 by unknown[13572] at 2007-11-28 04:15:23 (5 years ago) - [Report]

All the dream PCs I see cannot be adequately cooled with a single loop. I'm kinda wondering if that's the same for all modern highly overclocked PCs.
Let's say I buy a Q6600 and an 8800GT with the right RAM and motherboard, could that all be overclocked and cooled with a single watercooling kit if it has a Triple Rad?

#859449 by demagh (User) at 2007-11-28 10:49:02 (5 years ago) - [Report]

@Quickblood

Yes, a strong single water cooling loop will be able to cool down your video card, your quad core and even your chipset:

i am not a water cooling expert nor I've tried it before, but i did lots of readings before, it is all about 4 things:
- the finishing of the bottom of the water cooling blocks
- the maze used in each block
- how strong the pumper you are going to use
- how big is your radiator? and how many fans are going to cool it down?!

a friend of mine has done this kind of cooling before, it dropped his load temps with the opteron from 65 degrees to 34 degrees and his video card then was the 7800GT which dropped significantly in temps as well.

If you are interested in his customized water cooling kit specs, let me know.

#859525 by bkrawk (Power User) at 2007-11-28 15:25:12 (5 years ago) - [Report]

i'm interested in them, let's see it

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