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#276543 by DKre8ive1 (VIP) at 2005-07-03 07:33:02 (8 years ago) - [Report]Top

biblo22 wrote:

How do i know if the source is in NTSC or PAL,
if its in NTSC will the "NTSC to PAL" button be checkable?
because at the moment mines grey and i can't click it.

open it up with Virtual Dub Mod and check under File-> File Information

PAL=25 Fps*
NTSC= 29,97 fps*
             23,976 fps* with 3:2 pulldown = 29,97 playback fps (NTSC Film, this is only supported by MPEG2 video)


  note* fps=Frames per second

                                                         

#276727 by unknown[97070] at 2005-07-03 11:57:07 (8 years ago) - [Report]Top

Ninja909 wrote:

ps2asker wrote:

Hmmm...I have done this on like 10 movies before and now I finally have a problem When 2 .avi's the sound disappears...what is wrong...btw it's the proper nuked dvdscr of Sin City....any help appreciated

If your on about that dvdscr-rip, its nuked for "stolen without permission" ... meaning there's nothing wrong with the file, just group wars, lol. Run the file through G-Soft and check to see if u have the right codec/(de)compressor/ installed.
I should imagine its ac3 audio, so download this: http://nchc.dl.sourceforge.net/sourcefo … _0_70b.exe

Maybe a stupid thing, but try playing the file in a player to see if it actually has audio, then u can narrow down the problem.

It's mp3 audio, but I tried  ac3filter anyways but It didn't work....any other ideas?

#276862 by negge (Power User) at 2005-07-03 14:37:17 (8 years ago) - [Report]Top

Eski1L wrote:

hmm.. got o problem.. when i start to make the converstion it convert audio.. and then when it loadning CCE it just stop..

http://upl.silentwhisper.net/uplfolders … mmmmmm.JPG


any sugestion what the problem could be?

thnx

Did you specify the path to your encoder correctly?

And to all you guys, why do you post your own ways of converting AVIs to DVD, write your own guide.

Quote:

How do i know if the source is in NTSC or PAL,
if its in NTSC will the "NTSC to PAL" button be checkable?
because at the moment mines grey and i can't click it.

You can check it with GSpot. And yes, the NTSC to PAL button will be checkable if the source is NTSC and the conversion between NTSC and PAL works great, I always check it when my source happen to be NTSC.

#283218 by unknown[97070] at 2005-07-07 11:01:57 (8 years ago) - [Report]Top

I have anotehr problem now...the encoded video onlöy gets a little bigger than the avi and not near 4gb so the quality aint as good as I'd wish...I guess I've done something wrong with the bitrate settings but I don't know what? I have 9400 max and 0 min and on avg I put like 5000, 7000 and 4300 mb...what is wrong?

#283273 by negge (Power User) at 2005-07-07 11:19:18 (8 years ago) - [Report]Top

ps2asker wrote:

I have anotehr problem now...the encoded video onlöy gets a little bigger than the avi and not near 4gb so the quality aint as good as I'd wish...I guess I've done something wrong with the bitrate settings but I don't know what? I have 9400 max and 0 min and on avg I put like 5000, 7000 and 4300 mb...what is wrong?

Hmm make sure the Max avg. bitrate is set high. Is it a movie that you're encoding or is it a shorter clip or what, 'cause if the source is too short you won't get a 4450 MB file ('cause the bitrate would be too high).

#284286 by unknown[30189] at 2005-07-07 19:22:42 (8 years ago) - [Report]Top

i been using this program for 3-4days now and it gives pretty good results, im impressed

#284472 by unknown[97070] at 2005-07-07 21:37:44 (8 years ago) - [Report]Top

negge wrote:

ps2asker wrote:

I have anotehr problem now...the encoded video onlöy gets a little bigger than the avi and not near 4gb so the quality aint as good as I'd wish...I guess I've done something wrong with the bitrate settings but I don't know what? I have 9400 max and 0 min and on avg I put like 5000, 7000 and 4300 mb...what is wrong?

Hmm make sure the Max avg. bitrate is set high. Is it a movie that you're encoding or is it a shorter clip or what, 'cause if the source is too short you won't get a 4450 MB file ('cause the bitrate would be too high).

Yes, it's a movie....a 700 mb avi gets a bit over a gb and a 1.4 gb avi about 2 gb...how high should I set max avg? 9000?

#285974 by negge (Power User) at 2005-07-08 20:38:39 (8 years ago) - [Report]Top

ps2asker wrote:

Yes, it's a movie....a 700 mb avi gets a bit over a gb and a 1.4 gb avi about 2 gb...how high should I set max avg? 9000?

Setting the max to low will result in undersized movies so keep it high, like 8000 or something. If it somehow doesn't work correctly, calculate the appropriate bitrate you should use for your movie with Bearson's Bitrate Calc and then enter that value as the Min Avg. bitrate. That will make CCE encode it at atleast that bitrate which will result in the movie being around 4450 MB.

ninja909 wrote:

i been using this program for 3-4days now and it gives pretty good results, im impressed

I'm glad you like it

#286152 by unknown[97070] at 2005-07-08 23:18:47 (8 years ago) - [Report]Top

negge wrote:

ps2asker wrote:

Yes, it's a movie....a 700 mb avi gets a bit over a gb and a 1.4 gb avi about 2 gb...how high should I set max avg? 9000?

Setting the max to low will result in undersized movies so keep it high, like 8000 or something. If it somehow doesn't work correctly, calculate the appropriate bitrate you should use for your movie with Bearson's Bitrate Calc and then enter that value as the Min Avg. bitrate. That will make CCE encode it at atleast that bitrate which will result in the movie being around 4450 MB.

Ok...thanks will try that

EDIT: It didn't work I converted the war of the worlds release 1.4 gb to 1.6 gb? Here's my bitrate settings...Bearson's Bitrate Calc told me to have 5000... so I had 9400 max, 0 min, 5000 min avg and 8000 max avg...what am I doin wrong?

#287137 by unknown[30189] at 2005-07-09 16:07:18 (8 years ago) - [Report]Top

Im having problems now also... Joined the 2 Avi's using Vdub, used avitosvcd, burnt off the film and NO sound 10mins before the end... And no my source file has the sound. Any ideas?
thanks

#287161 by negge (Power User) at 2005-07-09 16:25:11 (8 years ago) - [Report]Top

Ninja909 wrote:

Im having problems now also... Joined the 2 Avi's using Vdub, used avitosvcd, burnt off the film and NO sound 10mins before the end... And no my source file has the sound. Any ideas?
thanks

Propably something got screwed up when joining the two files, did you get any popup messages about the header or something? Or did you accidentally close BeSweet while it was encoding?

ps2asker wrote:

EDIT: It didn't work I converted the war of the worlds release 1.4 gb to 1.6 gb? Here's my bitrate settings...Bearson's Bitrate Calc told me to have 5000... so I had 9400 max, 0 min, 5000 min avg and 8000 max avg...what am I doin wrong?

Hmm post a screenshot of your bitrate tab there's gotta be something screwed up.

#287244 by unknown[13409] at 2005-07-09 17:54:53 (8 years ago) - [Report]Top

Hi Guys & Girls

installed run the program its does the besweet audio coversion and then errors on cce
( i am using cce version 2.70
i have followed the instruction to the letter but it will not convert with cce

Any help anyone  Please

#287293 by negge (Power User) at 2005-07-09 18:54:42 (8 years ago) - [Report]Top

bobuilder wrote:

Hi Guys & Girls

installed run the program its does the besweet audio coversion and then errors on cce
( i am using cce version 2.70
i have followed the instruction to the letter but it will not convert with cce

Any help anyone  Please

Try using a different version of CCE, I have had problems with many of them, apparently v2.50 works 100% for me, you could give it a shot. Try checking the Safe mode (frameserving) checkbox too if you're using a newer version than v2.50, it might solve some problems.

#287345 by unknown[97070] at 2005-07-09 19:33:58 (8 years ago) - [Report]Top

Here's a screenshot...

#287951 by unknown[30189] at 2005-07-10 01:43:31 (8 years ago) - [Report]Top

negge wrote:

Propably something got screwed up when joining the two files, did you get any popup messages about the header or something? Or did you accidentally close BeSweet while it was encoding?

Yes the audio had different sampling rates... So what i did is run it through virtual dub and save the audio as uncompressed PCM, same goes for the second file. Then  appended those files together, then run it through the conversion....

strange, i've now done 6-7 films using this program and only one seems to be the problem, and "no" my source video and audio are perfect.

#290178 by negge (Power User) at 2005-07-11 15:25:43 (8 years ago) - [Report]Top

Ninja909 wrote:

negge wrote:

Propably something got screwed up when joining the two files, did you get any popup messages about the header or something? Or did you accidentally close BeSweet while it was encoding?

Yes the audio had different sampling rates... So what i did is run it through virtual dub and save the audio as uncompressed PCM, same goes for the second file. Then  appended those files together, then run it through the conversion....

strange, i've now done 6-7 films using this program and only one seems to be the problem, and "no" my source video and audio are perfect.

Hmm weird I never get any errors like this when converting stuff. You could always try to encode the 2 AVI files separately = use half the size of a DVD as "CD Size" for each file.

#290388 by unknown[30189] at 2005-07-11 18:10:55 (8 years ago) - [Report]Top

Ok, will try that.

umm, now im getting a different problem....


Half Baked - 614MB
VIDEO
Codec: DIV3/DIV4 / DivX 3 Fast-Motion
Frames: 145,876
kbps: 860
QF: 0.092
Frames/Sec: 30.000
W X - 720x432

AUDIO
0x0055(MP3, ISO) MPEG-1 Layer 3
44100Hz  192 kb/s total (2 chnls)

Thats the input file, downloaded and loaded into DVD2SVCD completely untouched.
  When I burnt off the VOB's and played the video, the audio was slow.
The voices of some people were like deep and slow...

look at this...

http://www.putfile.com/media.php?n=MPlex_Muxed_File00

Thats a Re-Code of the converted DVD file.



----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Here is the DVD2SVCD LOG...

WNASPI32.DLL 4.6.0.1021
The original video framerate of 30.000 is not supported. The framerate will be adjusted!
--------------------------------------------------------
- 11/07/2005 01:02:49
- AVI to SVCD Conversion
- AVI2DVD ver. 1.2.2 build 3
--------------------------------------------------------
Initializing
- C:\Movies\Half Baked\half baked.avi
Initializing finished.

--------------------------------------------------------
- 11/07/2005 01:02:52
- Free on drive C: 82394.68 mb
- AUDIO Extraction
--------------------------------------------------------
Audio extraction finished.

--------------------------------------------------------
- 11/07/2005 01:03:19
- Free on drive C: 82283.53 mb
- AUDIO conversion
--------------------------------------------------------
--------------------------------------------------------
- 11/07/2005 01:03:22
- Free on drive C: 82283.53 mb
- AUDIO conversion
--------------------------------------------------------

Converting MP2 to WAV. Filename: C:\Movies\Half Baked\Extracted_audio_1.mpa
Executing MADPlay (mp2 to wav). Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\MADPlay\madplay.exe" --quiet --output=wave:"C:\Movies\Half Baked\Encoded_audio_1.mp2.wav" "C:\Movies\Half Baked\Extracted_audio_1.mpa"
Conversion (mp2 to wav) of C:\Movies\Half Baked\Extracted_audio_1.mpa finished.


Encoding Audio. Filename: C:\Movies\Half Baked\Extracted_audio_1.mpa
Executing BeSweet. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\BeSweet\BeSweet.exe" -core( -input "C:\Movies\Half Baked\Encoded_audio_1.mp2.wav" -output "C:\Movies\HALFBA~1\Encoded_audio_1.mp2" -logfile "C:\Movies\HALFBA~1\Encoded_audio_1.log" ) -ota( -g max -r 30000 25000 ) -shibatch( --rate 48000 ) -2lame( -e -b 192 -m s )
Audio conversion of C:\Movies\Half Baked\Extracted_audio_1.mpa finished.

Audio conversion finished.

--------------------------------------------------------
- 11/07/2005 01:14:21
- Free on drive C: 81331.91 mb
- Video Encoding using Cinema Craft
--------------------------------------------------------

Executing Cinema Craft Encoder.
StreamSectors: 4546875788
AudioSectors: 141984780
VideoPAPO: 68234112
ScanOffsetBytes: 218814
SeqAligningBytes: 13906845
DVDBytes: 0
VideoEndHeader: 4
SubtitleSectors: 0
EmptySectors: 238.00
PictureSectors: 0.00
PureMPEGStream: 4322531232.67
Seconds: 5837.04
CalcMPEGStream: 4322531232.67
Frames: 145876
CDSize: 4350.00
Number of CDs: 1
Cut point 4346.00
Variable Settings:
Frames: 145876
Anti Noise Filter: Off
Passes: 4
Image Quality: 17
VAF file creation: On
Video Encoding Mode: Multipass VBR
Min. bitrate: 800
Max. bitrate: 8000
Avg. Bitrate: 5924
Aspect Ratio: 4:3 (No borders, encoded as 4:3)

---AVS Begin---
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\DVD2SVCD\AVISYN~1.5PL\Mpeg2dec\MPEG2D~1.DLL")
AVISource("C:\Movies\HALFBA~1\HALFBA~1.AVI",audio=false)
ConvertToYUY2()
AssumeFPS(25,1,True)
LanczosResize(676,576)
AddBorders(22,0,22,0)
Import("C:\Movies\Half Baked\ResampleAudio.avs")
ResampleAudio(44100)
----AVS End----

Closing program
CCE Max Speed: 0.930
Video Encoding finished.

--------------------------------------------------------
- 11/07/2005 10:32:55
- Free on drive C: 77169.90 mb
- Multiplexing Audio and Video
--------------------------------------------------------
Executing MPlex. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\DVDAuthor\mplex.exe"  -f 8 -o "C:\Movies\Half Baked\MPlex_Muxed_File00.mpg" "C:\Movies\Half Baked\Encoded_Video_CCE_PAL.mpv" "C:\Movies\Half Baked\Encoded_audio_1.mp2"
--------------------------------------------------------
- 11/07/2005 10:41:44
- Free on drive C: 72833.71 mb
- Determining length of audio
--------------------------------------------------------
Analyzing: C:\Movies\Half Baked\MPlex_Muxed_File00.mpg
5834.686 seconds C:\Movies\Half Baked\MPlex_Muxed_File00.mpg
Analyzing finished.

--------------------------------------------------------
- 11/07/2005 10:44:48
- Free on drive C: 72833.71 mb
- Authoring DVD
--------------------------------------------------------
Executing DVDAuthor. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\DVDAuthor\dvdauthor.exe" -x "C:\Movies\Half Baked\DVDAuthor.xml"
--------------------------------------------------------
- 11/07/2005 10:53:27
- Free on drive C: 68497.30 mb
- Creating DVD ISO Image
--------------------------------------------------------
Executing MkIsoFs. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\DVDAuthor\mkisofs.exe" -o "C:\Movies\Half Baked\DVDImage.iso" -publisher "fook" -volid "" -dvd-video "C:\Movies\Half Baked\DVD-Files"
Image creation finished.

--------------------------------------------------------
- 11/07/2005 10:59:29
- Free on drive C: 64160.11 mb
- Conversion done!
--------------------------------------------------------


Anyone know why my audio is like that?
Remember i had one file, so it wasn't need to be joined, i just loaded the file straight into dvd2svcd.

Any help appreciated, thanks

:wall: :wall: :wall: :wall: :wall: :wall:

#290415 by negge (Power User) at 2005-07-11 18:25:45 (8 years ago) - [Report]Top

Check the Encoded_Audio.mp2 file that DVD2SVCD has given you, if it doesn't have the same problems something must have got wrong in the muxing process, or the source is screwed up (I doubt that). If the Encoded_Audio.mp2 file doesn't have any "slowdown", try authoring with IfoEdit or Muxman and see if it works then.

#290453 by unknown[30189] at 2005-07-11 18:47:30 (8 years ago) - [Report]Top

negge wrote:

Check the Encoded_Audio.mp2 file that DVD2SVCD has given you, if it doesn't have the same problems something must have got wrong in the muxing process, or the source is screwed up (I doubt that). If the Encoded_Audio.mp2 file doesn't have any "slowdown", try authoring with IfoEdit or Muxman and see if it works then.

yeh Encoded_audio_1.mp2 is fine, perfect!

Encoded_audio_1 is the file that is slow.

wait a minute im confused. i loaded Encoded_audio_1 into DVDLab and its not DVD compliant. How can this be?
But thats the file it authoured, anyways i think its sorted now, just had to re-author with Encoded_audio_1.mp2 as my audio.
thanks

#290857 by Phixion (Power User) at 2005-07-11 22:44:16 (8 years ago) - [Report]Top

I have a few questions:

1: I keep getting sync issues when its encoding - any ideas?
2: How do i find whether to encode with the sound from the xvid or do it seperate?
3: What aspect ratio should I be using? Say the xvid is in widescreen, should I choose to encode it in widescreen or in normal 4:3.
4: Which files do I need to put on the dvd? Once its encoded I have quite a few files.

Cheers

Last edited by Phixion at 2005-07-11 22:56:50

#291402 by unknown[5606] at 2005-07-12 01:10:23 (8 years ago) - [Report]Top

Great guide, helps me starting using AVI2SVCD. But don't get the clue of the Aspect Ratio thing either. Wich one do I have to use if i want 16:9? Maybe a list like:

Source          Wanted Output          Choose:

4:3               16:9 with borders         AR here
4:3               16:9 without borders    AR here

Etc. Maybe that will help some people.

#291746 by unknown[30189] at 2005-07-12 03:08:08 (8 years ago) - [Report]Top

Aspect Ratio - Find the X and Y of your file... example 720x440. (u can find out by opening yuor file with g-spot or virtualdub...

Once you find the sizes... get out your cacualtor and divide those numbers...
(g-spot also caculates it automatically)

so 720 divided by 440 = 1.6363636363636363636363636363636

= 1.63


NOW...

if your number is below 1.78 choose 4:3
if your number is above 1.78 choose 16:9

well thats what i do anyways.





#291764 by Phixion (Power User) at 2005-07-12 03:21:00 (8 years ago) - [Report]Top

I just found an easier way (i think)

If you leave it as the default 4:3 AR and goto go > preview, it may look distorted, if it does change it to 16:9 and preview it again.

#291778 by unknown[37325] at 2005-07-12 03:35:47 (8 years ago) - [Report]Top

Ninja909 wrote:



wait a minute im confused. i loaded Encoded_audio_1 into DVDLab and its not DVD compliant. How can this be?
But thats the file it authoured, anyways i think its sorted now, just had to re-author with Encoded_audio_1.mp2 as my audio.
thanks

ninja909 i dunno if this helps but i had some troubles with audio at
first, so i just imported  the bb_muxed_00 file into DVDLab then it demuxed it
into audio and video, worked a charm for me.

#291832 by Phixion (Power User) at 2005-07-12 04:06:36 (8 years ago) - [Report]Top

This guide is great... but what about copying the files to dvd? what program should I be using?

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